Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:16:25 -0400 From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> To: Dave Glowacki <dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Threads across processors Message-ID: <v04011703b209f501b3ec@[128.113.24.47]> In-Reply-To: <199808261316.IAA26671@tick.ssec.wisc.edu> References: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:41:22 PDT." <24733.904102882@time.cdrom.com>
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At 8:16 AM -0500 8/26/98, Dave Glowacki wrote: >> > I don't know of enough PPC machines to make it worthwhile doing >> > a port. >> >> Macintoshes. iMACs especially. :) > > Not to put a damper on this, but... > > According to http://www.macosrumors.com/OSX.html MacOS X will already > have a version of BSD built in and a command line interface will be > available. > > Given that (and assuming the performance is somewhat decent), how > likely would people be to trade access to MacOS applications for > access to an open source OS? If a person bought a Mac to run MacOS, then there isn't much reason to think they'll rush to FreeBSD just because it is open source. They bought it to run Mac applications, and they will want to run Mac applications. Apple will have enough of a challange getting them interested in MacOS Ten (nee Rhapsody), never mind FreeBSD. However, you should ask the question from the opposite angle. Of people who want to run FreeBSD, how many of them might be willing to pay slightly more for hardware, if that gets them some fairly solid machine which isn't mired in the world of Intel hardware? Particularly if they need to run some freebsd-ish application on a laptop, where the PowerPC-based laptops can really outdo the Pentium-based laptops for performance. I'm all for nextstep/openstep/rhapsody/macOSten, having been a user of NeXTSTEP for many years. At the same time, I too am very interested in something like FreeBSD for G3's, assuming apple does not make that impossible. And while that will have a BSD-ish unix layer, it is clear that Apple is not concentrating on making the most perfect unix layer that the world has ever seen. Their priorities are elsewhere, they just like to have the unix layer as a base for the things they are concentrating on. I notice that OpenBSD is looking at the iMac (something about it having a "fixed" version of OpenFirmware -- although I don't know what issues that refers to), so I'm keeping an eye on that effort. I had assumed it was not likely that FreeBSD would have a PowerPC port, but if someone is keeping track of "votes/wishes", then I'm one of the people who would like to see it. Of course, maybe we want a different subject/thread for that wish-list discussion, and probably on a different mailing list as well. It's a cinch that today's freebsd-current is not running on PowerPC, whatever I might wish... :-) (and as long as this is running so long: Am I the only one who thinks of "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" when seeing the subject for this thread? :-) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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