Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:03:59 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> To: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@crodrigues.org> Cc: freebsd-threads@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Release criteria for libkse -> libpthread switch? Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040107115941.6394G-100000@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20040107070442.GB34511@crodrigues.org>
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> I asked this question to re@, but didn't get a clear answer.
>
> What is are the release criteria for switching libkse to libpthread? I
> assume that this is going to be targeted for 5.3, and not 5.2.
>
> Dan Eischen has been periodically testing with ACE, which works quite
> well with libkse. Are there other representative multithreaded
> applications which need to be tested? If so, which ones?
>
> re@ has mentioned that there are problems with ports and PTHREAD_CFLAGS
> and PTHREAD_LIBS which currently prevent switching libkse to libpthread.
> How many ports need to be fixed? Does every single port need to be
> fixed before the switch is made? If not, how many ports can be fixed to
> have an acceptable state of affairs for the switch?
>
> I am very eager to have a more robust pthreads implementation for
> FreeBSD, so that I can use FreeBSD as a drop-in replacement for Linux
> for several projects that I work on.
>
> I think we are pretty close...
I'm not sure there's a specific documented set of criteria at this point,
other than that the issue probably got addressed too late in the 5.2
release process. There are a number of running concerns, including:
(1) Avoid building a binary library name dependency into all the pre-built
packages we distribute. Also, resolve any lasting concerns about how
build processes should say "And I want threads, dammit".
(2) Have services like process debugging, profiling available and known
fully functional (or close).
I agree that we're very close. I was under the vague impression that we
planned to throw the switch once 5.2 was officially out the door. Many of
us are running KSE as our libc_r via libmap.conf on all our machines, and
have been for many months, and it appears to hold up quite well :-).
Resolving how best to declare threading support in binaries will also
facilitate shipping the JDK linked against KSE.
Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects
robert@fledge.watson.org Senior Research Scientist, McAfee Research
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