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Date:      Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:25:40 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Ralph Huntington <rjh@mohawk.net>
To:        Troy Settle <troy@psknet.com>
Cc:        "'Dave [Hawk-Systems]'" <dave@hawk-systems.com>, "'Drew Tomlinson'" <drew@mykitchentable.net>, <isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help
Message-ID:  <20020917110955.U87107-100000@mohegan.mohawk.net>
In-Reply-To: <004b01c25e4e$5be37ad0$2615c518@psknet.com>

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Hi Folks,

Everyone can relax about FP. It's a huge pain in the okole to deal with,
but I have it down and it's really quite easy (no kidding). Oh yes, it
took me quite some time and aggravation to get it working, but it does
work and can even be used with Apache 1.3.26, amazingly enough. I did have
to hand-patch to get it working with 1.3.26, but that was just a matter of
eye-balling the nearby lines to find the actual text, since they don't
line up after 1.3.19. And, oh yes, Microsoft's installer has to be patched
or it won't let you use 1.3.26. There's nothing magic about 1.3.19, it's
just that MS's installer specifies it, so it has to be reworked.

Here is what I regularly build on FreeBSD (you could just as well use a
later PHP and just about any version of FreeBSD):

[Tue Sep 17 00:00:14 2002] [notice] Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.1.2
FrontPage/5.0.2.2623 mod_ssl/2.8.10 OpenSSL/0.9.6e configured -- resuming
normal operations

Anyway, I'm pretty swamped this week with pressing items, but I will put
together a port for you. BTW, I do not build this using the FBSD port
system (which I do use for many other programs). I build this from sources
only. That way you get to control every aspect of the build.

Hmmm... instead of taking the time to build a port or a package, maybe
I'll just post the patches and a list of instructions. That should do it.
Look for that later today or write to me if you have an urgent situation.

Ralph


On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Troy Settle wrote:

>
> For nearly 6 years now, I've had Apache+SSL+FP running without issue.
> The last box I built was nearly 2 years ago, and has been in production
> ever since:
>
>   Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_perl/1.24 PHP/4.0.4
>   FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6
>
> Needless to say, I'm desperate to get this thing upgraded.  But over the
> last 2 months, I've patched, built, fiddled, scrubed, patched, built,
> fiddled, and fiddled some more.  I'm blue in the face over this, and
> I've given up on the bastard configuration.
>
> I too have thought about setting up a Win2k box to host FP sites.
> Reliability isn't an issue, my Win2k boxes are as reliable as my FreeBSD
> boxes (both would stay up for years at a time if I wanted).  No, my
> problem with Win2k web servers is security.
>
> I'm getting very close to scrap the whole hosting thing, and find
> someone else to provide such services for my customers.  With as few
> sites as I have, it's not profitable anyways.
>
> --
>   Troy Settle
>   Pulaski Networks
>   540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638
>   http://www.psknet.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Dave
> > [Hawk-Systems]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:19 AM
> > To: Troy Settle; 'Ralph Huntington'
> > Cc: 'Drew Tomlinson'; isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: RE: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help
> >
> >
> > >I too have had nothing but trouble getting Apache/mod_ssl/frontpage
> > >working.  I can get apache+mod_ssl, or apache+frontpage
> > working, but not
> > >all 3.  However, from what you posted, I'd say that your
> > errors are the
> > >result of a configuration error.
> > >
> > >Ralph,
> > >
> > >Are you saying that you got all 3 to work together?  If so,
> > how did you
> > >do it?  Do you have some notes that you could share?
> > >
> >
> > We did this with 4.3 stable about a year ago...  I don't know
> > if things have
> > changed with recent versions, but I remember having to
> > essentially patch all the
> > files manually, and spend a few days tinkering to get it to
> > work stable enough
> > to host the one client we initilly installed it for.
> >
> > End result is FPX wasn't stable enough for me to recommend it
> > for anyone else on
> > our servers.  Recommended they look for existing NT box and
> > NT tech with their
> > next competitor acquisition...  Let that box crash and burn,
> > and that tech worry
> > about it.
> >
> > I do wish that the apache-fp port was a little more inclusive
> > of some of the
> > other "mandatory" additions for hosting without hacking the
> > patches all to
> > pieces.  In the meantime, recommend let MS people host on an
> > MS server...  at
> > least then we can include a disclaimer for relibility
> > purposes on those boxes.
> >
> > If this has changed recently, MAY be willing to give it
> > another go on a spare
> > box.  Anything over and hour to fiddle with though just isn't
> > worth it IMO.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
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