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Date:      Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:21:34 -0800
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Sergey Kandaurov <pluknet@freebsd.org>, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r277694 - head/sys/amd64/conf
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Don't have a strong opinion on this because I'm not in the know lately, but was wondering:

1) if we wanted to keep NE1000/2000 support for FreeBSD in emulators?  Probably not I assume?
2) Does Linux nuke these devices?  why/why-not?


On Jan 25, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Warner Losh wrote:

> 
>> On Jan 25, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2015, at 04:43, Sergey Kandaurov <pluknet@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 25 January 2015 at 15:02, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>> Author: des
>>>> Date: Sun Jan 25 12:02:38 2015
>>>> New Revision: 277694
>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/277694
>>>> 
>>>> Log:
>>>> Remove ISA NICs.  Anyone still using these on amd64 can build their
>>>> own kernel.
>>>> 
>>>> Modified:
>>>> head/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC
>>> 
>>> If so, what about i386? (I'd rather not pc98)
>>> What about device isa in DEFAULTS?
>> 
>> isa is still needed in some scenarios. I just don't remember the full details offhand (something about internal buses iirc... And IPMI for starters...)
> 
> "isa” in this context should be read as “mainbus” not as “ISA slots”. You can’t
> remove it without some significant work, and even then the interface changes
> to long established interfaces isn’t worth the pain.
> 
> Warner
> 
> 




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