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Date:      Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:45:09 +0100
From:      Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Eygene Ryabinkin <rea@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org>, apache@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Ports Management Team <portmgr@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Patch for devel/apr1
Message-ID:  <83F6515AA80336FB9674C4A6@ogg.in.absolight.net>
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+--On 24 f=C3=A9vrier 2014 20:19:21 +0400 Eygene Ryabinkin =
<rea@freebsd.org>
wrote:
|> I've just committed a patch to bsd.options.mk[1] so that it tells
|> you you are using an old way and should update.
|=20
| Well, while this can have its own merits, it is a way too many POLA
| changes and sudden hickups (iconv in base, this change, ld's
| --add-needed change) that make me to collide my head and the
| table/wall.

I would consider it POLA if we added a warning eight months ago and removed
support seven months ago.

You've had eight months to update, and now, I'm adding a warning telling
you that you should update, I'm even giving you the correct way to do it.

| As the admin of the large pile of FreeBSD resources I should say that
| it became terribly hard to upgrade ports when one uses source-based
| approach with fine tuning.  Sorry, can't help to mention all this.

If you maintain a large pile of FreeBSD machines, you should really switch
to binary packages. I know for $WORK I've gone that way, it's so much
better to just run pkg upgrade, and get back a minute or two later with 200
ports updated.

If the stock binary packages don't meet your needs, install
ports-mgmt/poudriere on a solid box and build your own packages.

Regards,

--=20
Mathieu Arnold



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