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Date:      Fri, 1 Jun 2018 12:38:42 +0800
From:      blubee blubeeme <gurenchan@gmail.com>
To:        Oliver Pinter <oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org>
Cc:        Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>,  Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>, "deischen@freebsd.org" <deischen@freebsd.org>,  freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>,  "jmaloney@ixsystems.com" <jmaloney@ixsystems.com>
Subject:   Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver
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On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 07:42 Oliver Pinter <oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org>
wrote:

> On Friday, June 1, 2018, Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 05/31/2018 15:34, Oliver Pinter wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday, May 31, 2018, Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:34 PM Joe Maloney <jmaloney@ixsystems.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I personally wish that more drivers, and firmware were separated from
> >>>> base.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not a committer
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>> If you are not a committer,  how and why want to remove drm2 from the
> >> base
> >> system?
> >>
> > Johannes did not start this threat.  A committer, Niclas Zeising, did.
> > Johannes has stepped up and done a ton of work (along with many others,
> > some committers and some not) to get modern intel and amd GPU's working
> > under freebsd.
>
>
> >
> True. Yes I agree that their work is hard and it's a very big step forward
> for supporting modern hardwares. And it's required modern desktops, but
> please don't break the existing ones.

Agreed

This is my only request, probably it
> was expressed in a harsh way, sorry.
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > this was something that was a gaping hole in freebsd when this work
> > started a bit over a year ago, and i'm not sure why more committers
> weren't
> > embarrassed by this gap nor motivated to chip in.
> >
> > regardless - not sure why you'd take his comment out of context :/ the
> > full quote was:
> > "I'm not a committer but as I understand there's not pre-commit
> > integration tests.. If one had that, plus that it would test build kmod
> > ports against the pre-commit state of head as well, then maybe this would
> > work."
> >
> > not really sure what's controversial about that statement which would
> > prompt your reply - but i guess people dedicating their spare time to
> help
> > create useful things for others shouldn't go unpunished.
> >
> > well i guess i broke my promise to ignore this bikeshed :(
> >
> > -p
> >
> > --
> > Pete Wright
> > pete@nomadlogic.org
> > @nomadlogicLA
> >
> >
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