Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:24:04 -0700 From: Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> To: Lexi Winter <lexi@le-fay.org> Cc: pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 15.0 pkgbase, heads up: cron, lpr packages Message-ID: <21a2c14ec1286aa2e8e2e84712db7228@bsdforge.com> In-Reply-To: <ZiroZFaBQDFXVKNI@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org> References: <ZimTWK-Y2v0u2Nq3@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org> <2e3d33b6d98d1ab86686aeb75ea6e94c@bsdforge.com> <ZiroZFaBQDFXVKNI@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org>
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On 2024-04-25 16:33, Lexi Winter wrote: > Chris: >> Why? Isn't cron(8) essential? pkg needs it, as do (sys)admins for >> periodic(8)? > >> Why would one want to remove it? > > it's not essential: many jails don't need cron, for example. i have > several micro (service) jails that only run a single binary and don't > need many things that would be considered essential on a normal > multi-user system. Indeed. A jail is not a jail is not a jail. There is a myriad of tasks and services a jail can provide for. We run some 50+ for our needs. But I never mentioned jail in the context of "essential" services. So I'm not sure why we're talking about it. :) When I mentioned pkg(8) as requiring cron(8). I was referring it's need to fetch vuln.xml as part of it's periodic(8) task, in an effort to keep the system free from problematic ports/packages. Other "essential" tasks are also dependent upon cron(8) to keep the system "informed". IMHO cron(8) is essential to maintaining a safe and functioning system. I'm puzzled as to the motivation to remove it from $BASE. Thanks for all your time, and consideration, Lexi. > > fwiw, FreeBSD-periodic is already in its own package, so you can also > remove that if you don't need it. --Chrishelp
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