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Date:      Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:00:29 -0600
From:      Nate Williams <nate@sri.MT.net>
To:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: tcl -- what's going on here. 
Message-ID:  <199606202200.QAA11554@rocky.sri.MT.net>
In-Reply-To: <199606200002.CAA04323@vector.jhs.no_domain>
References:  <199606191153.MAA07207@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> <199606200002.CAA04323@vector.jhs.no_domain>

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{
I'm going to go off and shoot some poor defenseless prairie-land
creatuers with high-velocity metal in a few minutes, but this *needed*
to be addressed.
}

> 	It's time we had FreeBSD Annual Election Of Officials.
...
> 
> No FreeBSD `officer', core, or commiter, was ever elected (or sacked) by
> an electorate of current members.  They are currently
> `office-holders-for-life', there until they retire or drop dead.
> 
> FreeBSD is now a mature project, The un-elected oligarchy served us well 
> in the boot straping phase, but more people are now available,
> & some change would prevent sclerosis.

This is utter crap.  The people who hold 'office' in the FreeBSD project
are those folks who 'do' something.  That means writing code,
maintaining existing code, integrating outside code, and answering
questions.

The FreeBSD Project is *NOT* a democracy, and never will be.  Hinting
that it be that way is pure foolishness.

If you want something done, *DO IT YOURSELF*.  If it's good, it'll get
into FreeBSD.  If you do lots of good things, you'll end up as a core
member and/or in one of the positions of 'leadership'.

So, if you want something changed do it outside of email conversations
and actually *DO* something.  Even though I disagree with Poul's recent
TCL stuff, at least he did something.  I'd rather have Poul 'messing'
things up occasionally than 20 'outsiders' telling him how to do things
better.

'Nuff said, time for some gophers to *DIE*!!!!!



Nate



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