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Date:      Tue, 15 May 2007 18:30:26 -0300
From:      Duane Whitty <duane@dwlabs.ca>
To:        Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: SoC
Message-ID:  <20070515213026.GI1017@dwpc.dwlabs.ca>
In-Reply-To: <464969B3.3050306@u.washington.edu>
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On Tuesday, 15 May 2007 at  1:05:07 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> Tom Evans wrote:
> >On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 22:17 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> >>Ruby's nice, but it's built on Perl so I have suspicions on its overall 
> >>usability / speed given my experience with Perl over the past 4 months 
> >>daily for work :(.. Ruby's just the new big thing for programming 
> >>languages, so everyone's into it. Kind of like how Java was compared to 
> >>C/C++ a few years back. But once everything dies down people will 
> >>realize that they'll still have to program in C/C++/Perl for real-world 
> >>applications.
> >>
> >>Python seems better than Ruby from what I can see, but I really don't 
> >>like the mandatory indentation thing. Ew..
> >>
> >
> >Rubies are better Perls. That's the only connection between the two. One
> >day, a Japanese programmer got fed up with Perl, and wrote a better
> >language (for varying meanings of better).
> >
> >Its not based or built on Perl in any respect.
> >
> >Python and Ruby both have the same targets; to speed development time
> >and increase programmer productivity.
> 
> But one must make a Perl before one can make a Ruby. Maybe that was what 
> I was trying to aim for.
> 
> Ruby's nice, but it seems like it's going to be a bit passe in a few 
> years like Java was for compilable / interpretable languages.
> 
> -Garrett
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None of this matters


My only point is that if you need something quick to explore the format of
pkgdb.db or INDEX.db you are pretty well assured of finding a tool you
can work with; Perl, Python, or Ruby.  If these aren't sufficient use C.

The pkg_* tools are written in C so in C they will be modified; but no
harm in doing initial exploration and prototyping with something else.

Let's stay focused!

Duane



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