Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:34:12 +0200 From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" <andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com> To: Stanislav Sedov <stas@freebsd.org> Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD port]: devel/glib20 Message-ID: <6161f3180902270234t4d70cae0i900fe470939d0f9d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20090226223059.9e23c3dc.stas@FreeBSD.org> References: <20090224021026.ba40bdc2.stas@FreeBSD.org> <1235598615.3297.60.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20090226171804.8681e79c.stas@FreeBSD.org> <6161f3180902260653x2a6705l69b36c01b41caca0@mail.gmail.com> <20090226223059.9e23c3dc.stas@FreeBSD.org>
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On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Stanislav Sedov <stas@freebsd.org> wrote:
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> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:53:16 +0200
> "Andrew W. Nosenko" <andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com> mentioned:
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>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Stanislav Sedov <stas@freebsd.org> wrote:
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>> > On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:50:15 -0500
>> > Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> mentioned:
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>> >> On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 02:10 +0300, Stanislav Sedov wrote:
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>> >> > Hi!
>> >> >
>> >> > glib20 has a known filename encoding problem with non-utf8
>> >> > locales, because it doesn't perform names conversion from
>> >> > internal UTF8 to current locale by default (it used to do
>> >> > that some time ago). The patch included changes glib20
>> >> > behaviour to always do the conversion (this will work
>> >> > for all non-UTF8 locales and will have no effect fot UTF8
>> >> > ones). This is effectively the same redhat & co does in
>> >> > their deistributions.
>> >> >
>> >> > Comments?
>> >>
>> >> I have no objection, but I don't typically run into problems with
>> >> non-UTF-8 locales. I think it would be safer if you made this into an
>> >> OPTION, and added this as an extra patch if the OPTION is enabled.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Doesn't running gtk/glib (e.g. sylpheed, gimp) apps with non-UTF locale
>> > break filenames for you? From looking into the code it's always the case
>> > for non-UTF locales (well, if you running ISO8859-1 you shouldn't have
>> > problems too). On the other hand enabling LANG-based locale detection should
>> > not hurt prefromance much (I think the overhead of parsing LANG is neglible).
>> > Sure, we can OPTIONfy this, but I belive the options should be enabled by
>> > default in this case (otherwise, people will continue to step onto this
>> > bug). Major Linux distributions also have this option turned on by default
>> > to match the behavior of older version of glib where the locale detection
>> > code was always enabled.
>> >
>>
>> Why you want to patch Glib for turn this behavior on by default
>> instead of just install file in the /usr/local/etc/profile.d ?
>>
>> profile.d approrach is reversible (I can unset enviroment variable),
>> while patching Glib for remove patch ... slightly ugly at least,
>> IMHO.
>>
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> Hmm, I didn't knew about this possible way. What kind of file should
> be installed here? Is it something specific to glib?
No. It just collection of files that included by the '.' (dot)
command of shell into .profile execution chain. Something like
$ echo 'G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=yes' > /usr/local/etc/profile.d/glib20.sh
$ chmod +x /usr/local/etc/profile.d/glib20.sh
But I personally would to prefer UTF-8 filenames even when under
koi8-u locale, because it gives highly better interoperability between
desktops (GOME/KDE/XFCE) and users (some uses German at all just for
don't forget this language).
My personal vote: leave Glib as it is. Everything what you want may
be ahieved just by tuning environment variables.
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Andrew W. Nosenko <andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com>
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