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Date:      Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:51:31 -0500
From:      Bob Willcox <bob@immure.com>
To:        dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca
Cc:        Jamie Heckford <jamie@jamiesdomain.org.uk>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: sshd_config vs. PAM
Message-ID:  <20021005155131.GA8769@luke.immure.com>
In-Reply-To: <864rc3f4ks.fsf@number6.magda.ca>
References:  <200209272135.g8RLZ3We005877@arch20m.dellroad.org> <002e01c26873$3d717a50$3264a8c0@BONG> <864rc3f4ks.fsf@number6.magda.ca>

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BTW, is there a way to completely disable PAM on a system?

IMHO, PAM helps prove my favorite theory that security times usability
is a constant.

Bob


On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 08:08:51PM -0400, David Magda wrote:
> "Jamie Heckford" <jamie@jamiesdomain.org.uk> writes:
> 
> > I would very much like to see ssh completely detached from PAM, and
> > have the PAM ties as an option you have to enable as opposed to it
> > being the default.
> 
> I disagree.
> 
> Everything should use PAM by default. It's why it was invented: so
> that all authentication goes through one mechanism. If you then want
> to add/take away something, you only have to do it in one place.
> 
> If, as a matter of policy/preference, you want to change things
> locally there should be a make.conf setting of some kind.
> 
> What other exceptions should be made with regards to PAM? xdm(1)
> perhaps? telnetd(8)?
> 
> -- 
> David Magda <dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca>
> Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
> the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well 
> under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI
> 
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