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Date:      Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:22:21 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Bsd Neophyte" <bsdneophyte@yahoo.com>, "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: script-kiddie trap?
Message-ID:  <001501c17980$83dc1d20$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011130085315.56789.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bsd Neophyte
>Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 12:53 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Anthony Atkielski; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: RE: script-kiddie trap?
>
>
>
>--- Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
>> If you want my $0.002 I would recommend you file a complaint immediately
>> with their ISP without bothering with gathering evidence.  If their ISP
>> wants evidence then you can get it to them later.  However, for all you
>> know their ISP has already gotten multiple complaints from other people
>> about their customer, and doesen't need confirmation that the person in
>> question is being naughty.
>
>I've tried this before... twice back in my IRC days when someone would
>really make it a point to ping flood me whenver I logged on.  The ISP
>never did a thing.  Because of this, I've lost alot of faith in how ISP's
>handle these matters.
>
>What's worse is that one of these people was part a system administrator
>and "security specialist" of some New York web development firm.  Now, how
>do you complain against someone who you'd normally file the complaint
>with?
>

You go up the chain to the ISP's backbones.  Knowingly launching network
attacks on people is in violation of every AUP policy any backbone has in
place.

Also don't forget to make a telephone call - there's a lot of ISP's that
round file these complaints but will pay attention to a phone call.

Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com


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