Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:15:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Lanny Baron <lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com> To: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: FW: daemon woes??? or religious nonsense Message-ID: <XFMail.000615161546.lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com>
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Got this from a friend, and thought I would share it. -Lanny -----FW: <3948F890.28270.988F068@localhost>----- Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:38:56 -0400 From: Lanny Baron <lnb@cybertouch.org> To: lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com Subject: daemon woes??? >This is a message which appeared on the aussie-isp mailing list earlier >yesterday. I thought people here might like it :-) Ross is a reliable >source (as measured by most reasonable metrics :-), so I doubt we can >chalk this one up to "urban legend". > >I've cut a bit of stuff off the bottom of it, but apart from that this is >all in Ross' own words. > > - mark > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:45:51 +1000 (EST) >> From: Ross Wheeler <ross@home.albury.net.au> >> To: aussie-isp@aussie.net >> Subject: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of darkness. Real religious >> wars! >> >> >> I've got to tell someone about this.... I'm flabergasted! >> >> A client of a client had their internet gateway machine (a Linux box) >> hacked recently, and seriously compromised. Ok... totally screwed. >> >> So, much panic, waving of arms and gnashing of teeth, and it was a case >> of "drop everything and help" this poor school. The person who set up >> the original box is on the other side of the continent and seems to be >> not contactable, or something. >> >> Anyhow, we helped. KNOWING the box had been hacked and WOULD be under >> constant scrutiny, we suggested FreeBSD (now before we start any >> religious wars here, yes, a linux box MAY be as secure as a FreeBSD >> box, assuming both were set up by people familiar and competent with >> them both.... but we're a FreeBSD site and not expert with Linux! Plus, >> it was compromised as a Linux box, much better to change things a >> little while we're at it). >> >> So the box was completely re-built. They moved the goalposts a couple >> of times (changing how things needed to be set up AFTER it had been >> done, but hey...). and now that it's all going and working..... they >> want to rip it out and put linux back on again. >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> >> Well.... I could start a guessing competition here. >> >> And you guys (and girls) are NOT allowed to kill yourselves laughing >> here... This is what the person actually typed: >> >> >> "I've just had a converstaion with xxxx xxxx (our Principal) about some >> of the changes. We've had to deal with some of the philosphical issues >> related to BSD. As you know BSD uses a 'devil' icon to portray the BSD >> symbol. Given we are a Christian school this is a significant concern >> for us. Even after reviewing the sites blurb about the origin of the >> symbol, we've come to the conclusion that it would not be appropriate >> for us to use the software." >> >> Can you believe it?! >> >> I tried to "inform" them about the "mascot".... >> >> "some of our parents who are very technically savvy would not care >> about the disctinction. It is the subliminal message the icon >> represents..." >> >> And then the FreeBSD site itself fueled the fire: >> >> "Even the site talks about a deamon being 'unleashed' in you computer blah." >> >> So that's that. No further discussion would be entered into. They've >> made their decision..... with a parting shot that: >> >> "what we need to concern ourselves with as a Christian school is the >> 'message' or 'image' that may unwittingly be portrayd." > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- I >tried an internal modem, newton@atdot.dotat.org > but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton >----- Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 ------------- Fax: +61-8-82231777 ----- > >-- >LinuxSA WWW: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/ IRC: #linuxsa on >irc.linux.org.au To unsubscribe from the LinuxSA list: > mail linuxsa-request@linuxsa.org.au with "unsubscribe" as the subject > > Lanny Baron Microsoft: "Where would you like to go today" Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow" FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up" --------------End of forwarded message------------------------- Lanny Baron, Master FreeBSD Administrator ---------------------------------- Date: 15-Jun-00 Time: 16:15:46 Mosher's Law of Software Engineering: Don't worry if it doesn't work right. If everything did, you'd be out of a job. ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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