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Date:      Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:58:28 -0500
From:      "MikeM" <zlists@mgm51.com>
To:        freebsd-qa@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 5.2RC2 - timeouts with tertiary IDE controller & CD-ROM
Message-ID:  <200312310858280109.03A8718D@sentry.24cl.com>
In-Reply-To: <20031230185841.B35480@carver.gumbysoft.com>
References:  <200312301857030994.007E9620@sentry.24cl.home> <20031230185841.B35480@carver.gumbysoft.com>

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On 12/30/2003 at 7:00 PM Doug White wrote:

|On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, MikeM wrote:
|
|> > Yay timing issues. Your drive is jumpered for master and/or single
|> > operation, yes?
|>
|> Unknown.   The CD-ROM drive is a no-name drive that has no 
|> documentation for the jumper(s).
|
|Most of the CDROM drives I've come across have 3 settings, labelled MA,
|SL, and CS.  Normally MA == Master & Single, SL == Slave, and CS == Cable
|Select.  Make sure that MA is jumpered.

No labels on any of the pins, no documentation pasted on the top or bottom
of the drive, no manual, nothing.   As you, this is the first CD-ROM drive
I've ever seen without any docs or labels.  Tomorrow, I'll try to google
the CD-ROM's manufacturer's name to see if there's a website with the
needed docs.


|
|> > have you replaced the cable?
|>
|> I just replaced the cable with another, and I saw the same symptoms.
|> Additionally, the previous cable has worked fine on FreebSD 4.9 and RH
|> Linux 8.0 (can I say that here) when the CD-ROM is plugged into the
|> tertiary IDE controller.  The previous cable also worked fine with
|> FreeBSD 5.2RC2 when the the CD-ROM was plugged into the secondary IDE 
|> controller.
|
|Good to check nonetheless.
|
|5.2 has a newer ATA driver that did change the timings and such for
|detection. There's a LOT of ATA devices that are really, really picky
|about the timing.

Interesting that 5.2 works when the drive is plugged into the secondary IDE
controller, but not the tertiary IDE controller.  Whatever the problem is,
it is right on the ragged edge of being "in tolerance".




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