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Date:      Wed, 02 Dec 1998 12:32:10 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
To:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, dillon@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Uh oh... 
Message-ID:  <8552.912630730@zippy.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Dec 1998 10:44:24 EST." <199812021544.KAA20290@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> 

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> It has never in the past handled creating new users or groups.
> Witness the `network' group, the `xten' user, the `uucp' user, the `man'
> group, and the `dialer' group.

I think xten, uucp, user and dialer have been around for long enough
that we didn't have much trouble with them.  The `network' group was
another one I fielded a lot of questions over.

I think all this shows is that we've been here before and it sucked
then too (I also guess that some core folk are avoiding our user base
since it seems that some of you have formed a rather rose-colored
impression of past events! :-).  It's a bootstrapping issue which I'm
even more solidly convinced should have *some* kind of safety belt
installed, even if it just tells you "please go off and create user
foo with uid 30 and gid 33" and cops out.

- Jordan

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