Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2026 15:36:43 -0700 From: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> To: freebsd-pkgbase <freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org> Subject: Old /usr/bin/* files (and more) still around on modern main, long updated via pkgbase: looks like having FreeBSD-src installed and doing make check-old and the like are appropriate? Message-ID: <00b31e87-a4ee-4f04-ad74-c2b14fc9bcc5@yahoo.com>
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On a upstream pkgbase system (pkgbase'd for a long time) I typed a command, expecting the file to not be found:. But I got a command from/for x86_64-unknown-freebsd15.0 . # llc --version LLVM (http://llvm.org/): LLVM version 19.1.5 Optimized build. Default target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd15.0 Host CPU: znver4 Registered Targets: aarch64 - AArch64 (little endian) aarch64_32 - AArch64 (little endian ILP32) aarch64_be - AArch64 (big endian) arm - ARM arm64 - ARM64 (little endian) arm64_32 - ARM64 (little endian ILP32) armeb - ARM (big endian) ppc32 - PowerPC 32 ppc32le - PowerPC 32 LE ppc64 - PowerPC 64 ppc64le - PowerPC 64 LE riscv32 - 32-bit RISC-V riscv64 - 64-bit RISC-V thumb - Thumb thumbeb - Thumb (big endian) x86 - 32-bit X86: Pentium-Pro and above x86-64 - 64-bit X86: EM64T and AMD64 So: # ls -lodT `which llc` -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 68479752 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llc So: # ls -lodTt /usr/bin/* | tail -27 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 68563560 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/opt -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 15488 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/newkey -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 16592 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/chkey -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 69104456 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-lto2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 3877344 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/clang-format -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 6408112 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-xray -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 68999520 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-lto -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 7259416 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-pdbutil -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 15092080 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-rtdyld -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 17197216 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-mc -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 4186472 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-modextract -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 50378888 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-dwp -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 13936608 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-mca -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 52408312 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-dwarfutil -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 10581760 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-extract -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 5332256 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-link -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 14825272 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-dwarfdump -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 3440088 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-dis -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 68479752 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llc -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 3646560 Dec 8 14:29:27 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-diff -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 56905096 Dec 8 14:29:26 2024 /usr/bin/bugpoint -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 34556888 Dec 8 14:29:26 2024 /usr/bin/lli -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 4789024 Dec 8 14:29:26 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-cxxdump -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 4630800 Dec 8 14:29:26 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-as -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 581856 Dec 8 14:29:26 2024 /usr/bin/llvm-bcanalyzer -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 7624 Dec 8 14:29:26 2024 /usr/bin/keylogout -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 8296 Dec 8 14:29:26 2024 /usr/bin/keylogin That leads me to wonder what else is old that is still around. So, based on having the matching FreeBSD-src installed: # cd /usr/src/ # make check-old >>> Checking for old files /sbin/gvinum /usr/lib/debug/sbin/gvinum.debug /usr/bin/bugpoint /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/bugpoint.debug /usr/bin/chkey /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/chkey.debug /usr/bin/clang-format /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/clang-format.debug /usr/bin/keylogin /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/keylogin.debug /usr/bin/keylogout /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/keylogout.debug /usr/bin/llc /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llc.debug /usr/bin/lli /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lli.debug /usr/bin/llvm-as /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-as.debug /usr/bin/llvm-bcanalyzer /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-bcanalyzer.debug /usr/bin/llvm-cxxdump /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-cxxdump.debug /usr/bin/llvm-diff /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-diff.debug /usr/bin/llvm-dis /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-dis.debug /usr/bin/llvm-dwarfdump /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-dwarfdump.debug /usr/bin/llvm-dwp /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-dwp.debug /usr/bin/llvm-extract /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-extract.debug /usr/bin/llvm-link /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-link.debug /usr/bin/llvm-lto /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-lto.debug /usr/bin/llvm-lto2 /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-lto2.debug /usr/bin/llvm-mc /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-mc.debug /usr/bin/llvm-mca /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-mca.debug /usr/bin/llvm-modextract /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-modextract.debug /usr/bin/llvm-pdbutil /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-pdbutil.debug /usr/bin/llvm-rtdyld /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-rtdyld.debug /usr/bin/llvm-xray /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/llvm-xray.debug /usr/bin/newkey /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/newkey.debug /usr/bin/opt /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/opt.debug /usr/include/netinet/tcp_pcap.h /usr/sbin/keyserv /usr/lib/debug/usr/sbin/keyserv.debug /usr/share/certs/trusted/Entrust_Root_Certification_Authority_-_G4.pem /usr/share/certs/trusted/SecureSign_RootCA11.pem /usr/share/certs/trusted/Security_Communication_RootCA3.pem /usr/share/certs/trusted/SwissSign_Silver_CA_-_G2.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/AddTrust_External_Root.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/AddTrust_Low-Value_Services_Root.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/Cybertrust_Global_Root.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/DST_Root_CA_X3.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/E-Tugra_Certification_Authority.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/GeoTrust_Global_CA.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/GlobalSign_Root_CA_-_R2.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/Hongkong_Post_Root_CA_1.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/QuoVadis_Root_CA.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/Security_Communication_Root_CA.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/Sonera_Class_2_Root_CA.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/Staat_der_Nederlanden_EV_Root_CA.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/Staat_der_Nederlanden_Root_CA_-_G2.pem /usr/share/certs/untrusted/Trustis_FPS_Root_CA.pem /usr/share/locale/hr_HR.ISO8859-2/LC_MESSAGES /usr/share/locale/nl_BE.ISO8859-1/LC_MESSAGES /usr/share/locale/nl_BE.ISO8859-15/LC_MESSAGES /usr/share/locale/sr_RS.ISO8859-2/LC_MESSAGES /usr/share/locale/zh_TW.Big5/LC_NUMERIC /usr/share/man/man1/bugpoint.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/chkey.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/keylogin.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/keylogout.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/llc.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/lli.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/llvm-as.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/llvm-bcanalyzer.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/llvm-diff.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/llvm-dis.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/llvm-extract.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/llvm-link.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/llvm-pdbutil.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/opt.1.gz /usr/share/man/man3/dpv_free.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/figpar.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/get_config_option.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/parse_config.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/replaceall.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/strcount.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/strexpand.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/strexpandnl.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/strtolower.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/sysdecode_syscallnames.3.gz /usr/share/man/man4/rtw88fw.4.gz /usr/share/man/man4/twe.4.gz /usr/share/man/man5/publickey.5.gz /usr/share/man/man8/apmconf.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/gvinum.8.gz /usr/share/man/man9/vm_page_sbusy.9.gz /usr/share/man/man9/vm_page_sleep_if_busy.9.gz /usr/share/man/man9/vm_page_xbusy.9.gz >>> Checking for old libraries >>> Checking for old directories /usr/tests/sys/vm/stack/.debug /usr/share/man/man8/powerpc /usr/share/man/man8/i386 /usr/share/man/man8/amd64 /usr/share/man/man4/amd64 /usr/share/examples/drivers /usr/libexec/kgdb To remove old files and directories run 'make delete-old'. To remove old libraries run 'make delete-old-libs'. # make -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES delete-old Did I miss some sort of documented cleanup step? -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.comhome | help
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