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Date:      Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:19:51 -0400
From:      "Lyndon Griffin" <lgriffin@naviant.com>
To:        <freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Read this...
Message-ID:  <000901bec7f5$48dc3aa0$de01020a@naviant.com>
In-Reply-To: <19981210011112.EMA26585.fep01-svc@winworkstation>

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It's the return of the POST FROM HELL!!!!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 9:14 PM
> To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Read this...
>
>
>
>
> > Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > > Will someone with more courage and experiance than I please
> speak up about
> > > this, perhaps contact sun?
> >
>
> > Please _don't_ ask Sun for anything until you have a working port on
> > limited hardware. I doubt that anyone following this list would be
> > prepared to spend $$$ based on what has been said so far. Those people
> > who have access to Sun machines should be able to do a port with neither
> > financial nor moral support from Sun. If you want this sort of support,
> > you have to earn it.
>
> Let me explain the meaning of the word "support" from my personal
> point of
> view:
>
> 1) I haven't any Sun Hardware. I'm a student and I cannot pay
> 3000$ for a Sun
> Ultra5, only to "play" with it. I would have an AXi motherboard (good for
> experiments) but it costs too much. So, for the hardware I would
> have something
> like 50% of the price (no free hardware, at actual stage). Why
> Sun could give
> me/us this: I have not 3000$, and actually there are few persons
> with an Ultra
> box, so _if_ Sun wants more developers on this project they must
> help in some
> way. This is the situation it's not "charity"... Please note also
>  the word
> "Open" also means: I can buy it for a good price.
>
> 2) Docs, pdf and other things.... On Intel you can find
> _anything_ about "how
> it boots", "how it works", books and docs. If you go in a
> bookstore you can
> find many books about "everything". Not the same situation on Sparc.
> So again: "Open" means I can read "how it works" without paying 500$...
>
> 3) Moral support. Actually, if Sun (SME) will put something
> on-line about the
> harware we can do a good job (something that works/boots on
> limited hardware)
> with no moral support. We can do experiments where "I don't know
> how it works"
> and read where "it's documented at page..."
>
> Thanks for youe time 8)
>
>
>
> Ciao Ciao
>        Paolo Di Francesco
>    _
>  ->B<-   All Recycled Bytes Message ...
>    ~
>
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