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Date:      Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:32:09 -0500
From:      Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>, FreeBSD-chat <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>, Ken Keeler <kkeysler@nwlink.com>
Subject:   Re: Smaller, Dedicated tools and Greg's Daemon News Article
Message-ID:  <367583D9.1428837B@aei.ca>
References:  <19981214083023.C2587@freebie.lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812132318160.6577-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu> <19981214201953.52678@welearn.com.au>

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Sue Blake wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Dec 13, 1998 at 11:29:40PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote:
> > I spent the entire weekend doing battle with Microsoft products. We
> > produced a 400 page report using the bastard Word 97. Easily 20 full man
> > hours were spent trying to figure why there were big red X's where
> > pictures used to be and recovering files that were corrupted during
> > crashes. We could not put together more than 20MB/200 pages of text before
> > complete instability occured.
> >
> > What a horrible waste of time.
> >
> > Oh yeah, don't forget that little paper clip sucker in the right corner.
> > Good thing I didn't have my gun. I'da shot the futhermocker right in his
> > litte winky eye.
> >
> > Imagine trying to put together "The Complete FreeBSD" in this environment.
> >
> > The point is, I know how well small dedicated tools work. I haven't
> > learned the text editing tools because I was never motivated to do so.
> >
> > A recent email chat combined with Greg's article have completely convinced
> > me that I should learn a little bit more programming in order to make my
> > life easier.
> >
> > Emacs, Tex, here I come!
> 
> Greg will scowl from his perch, but even the simplest programming is
> beyond me at the moment. There are other ways, though. First a tale of
> woe.
> 
> About three years ago I was asked to edit and prepare a large highly
> structured document in Word, which was to be saved in various formats
> (word processors on different platforms, HTML, PDF) for distribution on
> CD mainly to mac users.
> 
> The microsoft addicts with the money naturally wanted to be able to
> maintain it on their own if I disappear, and the only thing they do
> with computers is Word. The last additions were about to arrive, and
> the preparation for the CD was due to be complete in 2 weeks, so they
> paid me in advance.
> 
> NEVER take money in advance!! After years of a few new words here and
> there every couple of months, during which time I swore off mickeysoft
> except for a small partition for this job, the final changes came
> through last week. The final final changes, they insist. I insist too.
> 
> To boot NT, apart from losing the use of my best machine, I have to get
> into the CMOS and hide some disks. Boring. So a while ago I saved the
> damn thing as RTF, extracted the common ground from a bunch of
> different RTF specs and word processor interpretations of them, cleaned
> the RTF code of redundancies (greatly reducing the file size and
> increasing platform independence) and dragged it onto my 386. There I'm
> maintaining it with ed, sed, joe, and rcs. Ispell conveniently ignores
> the RTF bits if you tell it it's TeX. Now when they reckon a prior
> change has been lost or unapproved I can trace it back. I still have to
> go into NT one more time to produce the word-processor-native versions
> and build a fancy PDF with links and notes, but then it'll be over.
> 
> Meanwhile the RTF file is always available to them by ftp even as I
> work on it, they can use it without any conversion on their win and mac
> machines, and I get to use tools that are so efficient that they don't
> even interfere with the web/ftp/mail/dns/etc that the 386 is serving at
> the same time. (By contrast, the office had to upgrade their 486s ages
> ago when they couldn't cope with Win3.1/Word6) I've been able to use a
> text editor to write letters in RTF on their behalf, email them to the
> mac office for printing and posting and to the win head office for
> approval and archiving.
> 
> It's not about programming at all. It's about cutting through the
> bullshit to find the most sensible approach while respecting the more
> restricted choices of others. And if you treat it as religion you'll
> always risk being half blind to the possibilities. Religions restrict
> the mind and destroy those who want to consider other options.
> 
> If programming is your tool, great, but there's plenty of scope for the
> non-programmers here too. Similarly, there's a lot of people out there
> who don't want to know about computers and shouldn't have to just to
> type a document or look at a web page. Unlike the commercial
> monopolies, I believe there's room for all of us if only we can rise
> above the gut reactions of preaching and running scared.
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-
Huh, I'm probably wrong, but someone said to me that RTF was a standard
once develloped by Microsoft.
Anyway..
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