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Date:      Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:09:54 +0200
From:      Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>
To:        Richard Wackerbarth <rkw@dataplex.net>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Karl Pielorz <kpielorz@tdx.co.uk>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Quick Question re: Dmesg & Current Version
Message-ID:  <19980418140954.28168@follo.net>
In-Reply-To: <l03130300b15e08da98d4@[208.2.87.4]>; from Richard Wackerbarth on Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:47:58AM -0500
References:  <353802A2.CB67FCE7@tdx.co.uk>; <353802A2.CB67FCE7@tdx.co.uk> <19980418113504.U1090@freebie.lemis.com> <l03130300b15e08da98d4@[208.2.87.4]>

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On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:47:58AM -0500, Richard Wackerbarth wrote:
> At 9:05 PM -0500 4/17/98, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >On Sat, 18 April 1998 at  2:32:18 +0100, Karl Pielorz wrote:
> >> I'm just starting to get to grips with CVSup - is there anywhere it stores
> >> the date & time that the source was last updated? - Rather than the last
> >> build time?
> >
> >Somewhere, probably.  When I used ctm, I modified /sys/conf/newvers.sh
> >to include the ctm update number in the header, but I haven't found
> >anything useful in the CVS database.  Let me know if you do.
> 
> Nope. AFAIK, there is nothing there. What is needed is something generated
> at the MASTER source and propogated through all the distribution chains.
> 
> I wrote such a change last year, but it was promptly rejected on what I
> can only conclude were political grounds. (The supposed "technical grounds"
> were bogus arguments.) Perhaps someone with some clout will reconsider :-(

(Richard, please don't take this personally) I was in favour of
reaching Richard's goal (and I think all of us where), but saw Nate's
arguments as fully convincing.  Loosing information if you loose a
race is not acceptable for a production system as large as FreeBSD.

I'd be glad if you looked into providing a solution for the problems
with your change, and will try to get the change in if you do so.

Eivind.

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