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Date:      Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:59:31 -0600
From:      Glenn Johnson <glennpj@charter.net>
To:        =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, FreeBSD Questions <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD Hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?
Message-ID:  <20011228225931.GA448@gforce.johnson.home>
In-Reply-To: <200112282212.fBSMCea36745@freebsd.dk>
References:  <20011228204612.GA1226@gforce.johnson.home> <200112282212.fBSMCea36745@freebsd.dk>

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On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:12:40PM +0100, Søren Schmidt wrote:

> It seems Glenn Johnson wrote:
>
> > I have had this exact problem.  I have an Epox 8KTA board with a
> > 1GHz Athlon (Thunderbird) with 256MB of PC-133 memory.  I would
> > consistently get random errors, usually during a compilation, using
> > the default BIOS settings.  After fiddling with some of the BIOS
> > options, such as enabling PCI burst, the system runs pretty stable.
> > However, occasionally I will get that freeze that you refer to
> > during a buildworld.  As far as I can tell though if I set the
> > memory clock to 100MHz the problem goes away completely, or at least
> > I have not observed it happen yet.
>
> I have a 8kta3+ here that has problems with some of the PC133 512Mb
> modules I got cheaply earlier this year, the problem was solved when
> I swithed of "page mode" in the BIOS, it then runs 100% stable even
> overclocked at 145Mhz and CAS2 which the modules shouldn't even
> support.

Thanks, I will give that a try.

> > It is really hard for me to say if this is FreeBSD specific because
> > I do not tend to stress the system much when I have Linux running.
> > My wife has an identical system running Windows 98SE and she has no
> > problems but I know that I have installed software from Epox that
> > specifically addresses some issues with the VIA chipset so that may
> > be why.
> >
> From what I can tell the newest Epox BIOS for the 8kta3 does *not*
>
> install the 686b fix when it doesn't detect a SBLive! sound card, nice
> but not good enough :/

Yes, that seems to be the case.  I just checked the Epox Web site and
the BIOS revision of 04/17/2001 for the 8KTA has the following bullet
point:

    *  Fixed VIA KT133/A/E + 686B issue copying large sized files on
    *  E/IDE devices with a SB Live sound card installed.

No further mention of the issue is made for later BIOS revisions.

For the software I referred to above, I was referring to Windows
software that includes fixes for the OS drivers.  They call it VIA
Apollo 4-in-1 (a.k.a. VIA ServicePack).  I am not really up on Windows
behavior but my impression was that this software was necessary to
enable UDMA.

-- 
Glenn Johnson
glennpj@charter.net

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