Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:35:47 -0800 From: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: OpenSSH HPN Message-ID: <56436E63.6040602@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <546376BD-A2E7-4B73-904E-4F33DD82401E@digsys.bg> References: <86io5a9ome.fsf@desk.des.no> <20151110175216.GN65715@funkthat.com> <56428C84.8050600@FreeBSD.org> <CAOc73CAHQ0FRPES7GrM6ckkWfgZCS3Se7GFUrDO4pR_EMVSvZQ@mail.gmail.com> <20151111075930.GR65715@funkthat.com> <CAA=KUhs9g9gajxwLFBgn2nNhnn4oQSZ56FRVC%2BPde4ZZO=g7Ug@mail.gmail.com> <546376BD-A2E7-4B73-904E-4F33DD82401E@digsys.bg>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On 11/11/2015 7:49 AM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > It is my understanding, that using the NONE cypher is not identical to using “the old tools” (rsh/rlogin/rcp). > > When ssh uses the NONE cypher, credentials and authorization are still encrypted and verified. Only the actual data payload is not encrypted. > > Perhaps similar level of security could be achieved by “the old tools” if they were by default compiled with Kerberos. Although, this still requires building additional infrastructure. > > I must have missed the explanation. But why having a NONE cypher compiled in, but disabled in the configuration is a bad idea? My reasoning for wanting SSH/SCP with NONE is precisely because of the ssh key support. It simplifies a lot to be able to use the same key over a VPN and not over the VPN to connect to the same system. -- Regards, Bryan Drewery [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJWQ25oAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfPdg8IALC3wjzLDfdF13s1E3/RHhOm WkfcX1LSeY3LaaODM3nJKh7eTBNzHNAGn0SHzF+2rvghFXNPKAuaFLrl1sIAlC2Y b/5HPnAay3Y4Iy7NPbtnRz7uKPzmNt5okN5Wa604UshiUWvh72HV6IbJtBHGSiJt J/gnhqac1NN4zhMaW4YQB6MsVZB9qgCHY4Q43RQId02aEJyy7LcULf/vSFSKjFxa P2xBJZ465nnUYsxY1dQ2ZKQMIQkxRwoxtJE6VOjU06EQT3JlhubKSMKuzjUjHlr8 rke47xBbuaiqHlncaMn5ITXRpOUZpYeXZao+1aNfsjHzxFaat0cY1W2M1dYWfQw= =FB2X -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----help
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