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Date:      Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:55:56 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Mike Karels <mike@karels.net>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Mike Karels <karels@freebsd.org>, doc-committers@freebsd.org,  dev-commits-doc-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: c16cd8dfe3 - main - 13.1 relnotes: Add sections derived from 13.1 RELNOTES file.
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 5:53 PM Mike Karels <mike@karels.net> wrote:

> On 12 Apr 2022, at 17:41, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> > On 4/11/22 6:45 AM, Mike Karels wrote:
> >> The branch main has been updated by karels (src committer):
> >>
> >> URL:
> https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/doc/commit/?id=3Dc16cd8dfe3e22dc51aa4f45c1161704=
046845142
> >>
> >> commit c16cd8dfe3e22dc51aa4f45c1161704046845142
> >> Author:     Mike Karels <karels@FreeBSD.org>
> >> AuthorDate: 2022-04-10 15:19:27 +0000
> >> Commit:     Mike Karels <karels@FreeBSD.org>
> >> CommitDate: 2022-04-11 13:45:40 +0000
> >>
> >>      13.1 relnotes: Add sections derived from 13.1 RELNOTES file.
> >>          Incorporate portions of the 13.1 RELNOTES file not in 13.0,
> rephrase
> >>      without the imperative "Add ..." first lines, and add markdown.
> >>      NFS section reviewed by Rick Macklem; One True Awk reviewed by
> Warner
> >>      Losh.
> >>          Reviewed by:    gjb, pauamma_gundo.com
> >>      Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D34864
> >> ---
> >>  +WiFi 6 support has been added. gitref:0a6760a1de32[repository=3Dsrc]
> gitref:3f3676a71266[repository=3Dsrc] gitref:580c04df4db6[repository=3Dsr=
c]
> >
> > I suspect that this is a bit of an overstatement.  These commits are al=
l
> in
> > wpa_supplicant and it may be that we would support the newer auth
> features
> > in Wifi 6 on a driver that supported WiFi 6.  However, I don't think an=
y
> of
> > the wifi drivers in FreeBSD currently support 802.11ac much less Wifi 6=
.
>
> Thanks.  I see that I misinterpreted a comment.  I=E2=80=99ll ask for
> clarification.
>

Yea, we support some of the newer protocols in the wifi stack, but don't
have any MAC support > 802.11n.
wifi 6 and 802.11ac generally refer to the whole stack, so I'd agree with
john: we have the interop stuff
to log into wifi 6 networks w/o the MAC support to get the faster speeds
(and a few other crazy low-level
advantages).

Warner

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 5:53 PM Mike =
Karels &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mike@karels.net">mike@karels.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 12 Apr 2022=
, at 17:41, John Baldwin wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On 4/11/22 6:45 AM, Mike Karels wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; The branch main has been updated by karels (src committer):<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; URL: <a href=3D"https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/doc/commit/?id=3Dc16cd8df=
e3e22dc51aa4f45c1161704046845142" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://cgit.FreeBSD.org/doc/commit/?id=3Dc16cd8dfe3e22dc51aa4f45c1161704046845=
142</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; commit c16cd8dfe3e22dc51aa4f45c1161704046845142<br>
&gt;&gt; Author:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mike Karels &lt;karels@FreeBSD.org&gt;<=
br>
&gt;&gt; AuthorDate: 2022-04-10 15:19:27 +0000<br>
&gt;&gt; Commit:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mike Karels &lt;karels@FreeBSD.org&gt;<=
br>
&gt;&gt; CommitDate: 2022-04-11 13:45:40 +0000<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 13.1 relnotes: Add sections derived from 13.1 =
RELNOTES file.<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Incorporate portions of the 13.1=
 RELNOTES file not in 13.0, rephrase<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 without the imperative &quot;Add ...&quot; fir=
st lines, and add markdown.<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 NFS section reviewed by Rick Macklem; One True=
 Awk reviewed by Warner<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Losh.<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Reviewed by:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 gjb, <=
a href=3D"http://pauamma_gundo.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">pa=
uamma_gundo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Differential Revision: <a href=3D"https://revi=
ews.freebsd.org/D34864" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://review=
s.freebsd.org/D34864</a><br>
&gt;&gt; ---<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 +WiFi 6 support has been added. gitref:0a6760a1de32[reposito=
ry=3Dsrc] gitref:3f3676a71266[repository=3Dsrc] gitref:580c04df4db6[reposit=
ory=3Dsrc]<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I suspect that this is a bit of an overstatement.=C2=A0 These commits =
are all in<br>
&gt; wpa_supplicant and it may be that we would support the newer auth feat=
ures<br>
&gt; in Wifi 6 on a driver that supported WiFi 6.=C2=A0 However, I don&#39;=
t think any of<br>
&gt; the wifi drivers in FreeBSD currently support 802.11ac much less Wifi =
6.<br>
<br>
Thanks.=C2=A0 I see that I misinterpreted a comment.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ll ask=
 for clarification.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yea, we support som=
e of the newer protocols in the wifi stack, but don&#39;t have any MAC supp=
ort &gt; 802.11n.</div><div>wifi 6 and 802.11ac generally refer to the whol=
e stack, so I&#39;d agree with john: we have the interop stuff</div><div>to=
 log into wifi 6 networks w/o the MAC support to get the faster speeds (and=
 a few other crazy low-level</div><div>advantages).</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Warner=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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