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Date:      Fri, 1 Dec 2000 06:18:01 -0500 (EST)
From:      Joe Oliveiro <joe@advancewebhosting.com>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Nevermind <never@nevermind.kiev.ua>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Important!! Vulnerability in standard ftpd
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012010616410.11075-100000@joe.pythonvideo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20001201031417.A44830@citusc17.usc.edu>

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On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 12:41:14PM +0200, Nevermind wrote:
> 
> > > Check what out? Probably your machine has some other vulnerability
> > > which was leveraged. You have given us nothing here beyond showing
> > > that your ftp server has a world writable directory.
> > I cannot find now files I've found few month ago.
> > You should contact better man, who had found ~tmp. dirs in his incoming (it is
> > in parallel thread).
> > 
> > He surely can find hidden files using fsck.
> > He should look afair in /var/games/
> 
> You have come in and cried "Wolf!" (see subject line) and you don't
> have any evidence to back up your claim? That's fairly annoying to the
> people you have now caused to panic about some new super-secret ftp
> exploit. It is *much* more likely that your machine had some other
> well-known vulnerability which you overlooked, and this is actually
> what your attackers exploited.
> 
> So far all you've shown is that you had a world-writable public
> directory which some people uploaded files to. If someone can upload
> files, it's much easier for them to take advantage of *other* security
> weaknesses on your system which require a local file to work.
> 
> Guys, until someone can produce evidence that ftpd itself was actually
> the entrance vector and not just an incidental factor to some other
> vulnerability, I wouldn't worry about FreeBSD ftpd security
> problems. Of course, public writable directories have been, and always
> will be, a bad thing for your system security no matter what ftpd you
> use.
> 
> Kris
> 
Why take the chance. i restrict access to ftpd via ipfw.



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