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Date:      Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:28:17 -0400
From:      Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>
To:        "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>
Cc:        keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why did evolution fail?
Message-ID:  <20020910152817.7ceb1917.yid@softhome.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020910095307.X62741-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>
References:  <20020909231609.68ac5883.yid@softhome.net> <20020910095307.X62741-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>

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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
"Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Joshua Lee wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:30:52 -0700 (PDT)
> > "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> wrote:
> > > Correction.  Logic and ethics are meaningless without objective
> > > standards, and objective standards are impossible without
> > > appealing to something, well, *objective*.  "Objective" means that
> >
> > No, "objective" can operate according to natural law without having
> > to appeal to an external source. e.g. Kantian ethics.
> 
> ROFL.  You think Kantian ethics are objective?  BTW, please explain
> how you get ethics from "natural law".  That's a joke, right?

Kantian ethics are objective, I don't happen to like a few of the
conclusions it reaches, but they are objective, without placing a diety
on a pedestal of objectivity. Funny, you being a Protestant, I thought
you would like Kant. What do you not like about his philosophy, which is closer to your beliefs than mine anyway?

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