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Date:      Tue, 25 Jun 2002 07:36:33 -0700
From:      Greg Shenaut <greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu>
To:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The good old telnet... 
Message-ID:  <200206251436.g5PEaX011154@thistle.bogs.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jun 2002 00:23:13 EDT." <20020625042313.GA75674@CPE0004761ac738-CM00109515bc65.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> 

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In message <20020625042313.GA75674@CPE0004761ac738-CM00109515bc65.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com>, Miroslav Pendev cleopede:
>I would rather get back to the good old telnet, than waiting for someone
>to log in - even with non-privileged user (as Theo said even with privsep).
>
>Which is the worst - clear text pass going around Internet with milions of
>POP3 clear text passwords or "c'mon in...?

I have

 	encrypt enable DES_CFB64
 	set autodecrypt

in the default .telnetrc on my machines--this causes encryption to
begin before the password is transmitted.  It seems to me that a
little work in this direction (e.g., optionally causing telnetd to
insist on encryption before any text is exchanged) could make telnet
once again a viable alternative; at least would get rid of the
"millions of clear text passwords" problem.

But of course the god-awful telnetd exploit of last summer would
still have worked, because it had nothing to do with passwords.

Greg Shenaut

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