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Date:      Sat, 22 May 2021 01:46:46 +0100
From:      Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com>
To:        FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: zpool upgrade and bootcode on 13-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <3940e10d-e258-945e-fe99-4d3544541033@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <8A7B5F0F-BDF8-4915-8868-0D39C6579110@grem.de>
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On 20/05/2021 00:13, Michael Gmelin wrote:
>
>> On 20. May 2021, at 00:18, Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> …
>
> Given that I upgraded the zpool of a server that boots of a legacy 
> boot partition, how would the red alert box saying
>
>    "Updating UEFI ESP partitions (the partition the firmware boots 
> from) has changed. SeeBoot Loader Changes 
> <https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/relnotes/#boot>for important 
> details."
>
> have caught my attention? No UEFI involved at my end, no zpools 
> involved in the warning (I noticed the absence of the warning after 
> running "zpool upgrade", so no harm done, but other users might be 
> less fortunate).
>
> -m


In a lucky situation: a red alert for changes to something other than 
the freebsd-boot partition might, obliquely, cause the reader to wonder 
about changes to the freebsd-boot partition that are not classified as 
changes for release note purposes :-)

That's with a smile, no personal criticism intended, because I am 
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=256024#c8>; amongst 
the people who misinterpreted part of the release notes.

For anyone who's not following that particular bug (for the command, the 
action of upgrading a pool), there's a parallel bug for the FreeBSD 
Handbook:

255318 – handbook: Document how to update the bootloader
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255318>;

Add <https://man.freebsd.org/zpool-upgrade(8)>; to the mix.

Eventually we should have a handbook, a manual page and an action that 
are reasonably foolproof. Free from fortune, luck, obliqueness and 
wonder :-)


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/05/2021 00:13, Michael Gmelin
      wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote type="cite">On 20. May 2021, at 00:18, Graham Perrin
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:grahamperrin@gmail.com">&lt;grahamperrin@gmail.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
          <br>
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        <div dir="ltr">…<span></span><br>
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      <div>Given that I upgraded the zpool of a server that boots of a
        legacy boot partition, how would the red alert box saying</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>   "<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0,
          0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Updating UEFI ESP
          partitions (the partition the firmware boots from) has
          changed. See</span><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
          color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"> </span><a
          href="https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/relnotes/#boot"
          style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust:
          auto; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" moz-do-not-send="true">Boot Loader
          Changes</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color:
          rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"> </span><span
          style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
          -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">for important details."</span></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>have caught my attention? No UEFI involved at my end, no
        zpools involved in the warning (I noticed the absence of the
        warning after running "zpool upgrade", so no harm done, but
        other users might be less fortunate).</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>-m</div>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>In a lucky situation: a red alert for changes to something other
      than the freebsd-boot partition might, obliquely, cause the reader
      to wonder about changes to the freebsd-boot partition that are not
      classified as changes for release note purposes :-) <br>
    </p>
    <p>That's with a smile, no personal criticism intended, because I am
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=256024#c8">&lt;https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=256024#c8&gt;</a>;
      amongst the people who misinterpreted part of the release notes. <br>
    </p>
    <p>For anyone who's not following that particular bug (for the
      command, the action of upgrading a pool), there's a parallel bug
      for the FreeBSD Handbook: <br>
    </p>
    <p>255318 – handbook: Document how to update the bootloader<br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255318">&lt;https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255318&gt;</a></p>;
    <p>Add <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://man.freebsd.org/zpool-upgrade(8)">&lt;https://man.freebsd.org/zpool-upgrade(8)&gt;</a>; to the mix.
      <br>
    </p>
    <p>Eventually we should have a handbook, a manual page and an action
      that are reasonably foolproof. Free from fortune, luck,
      obliqueness and wonder :-)<br>
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