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Date:      Mon, 27 Jul 2026 20:24:09 -0700
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>,  Sulev-Madis Silber <freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee>,  freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Tragic State of FreeBSD Audio/Sound
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 at 15:09, Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>
>> If you're experiencing "buzz" like I think you are then it's the same
>> frame being queued
>> over and over again to the DAC. Typically I've only seen that happen here when I
>> have the kernel panic (we're not stopping audio DMA at this point, and
>> I don't know
>> why it's looping over.)
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Even in the year of our lord "LLMs are available" there's only so much
>> one can do
>> in long email threads; at some point bugs need reproducing, PRs need filing and
>> developer / user time needs to happen. Let's be methodical about it to help out
>> the sound folks in figuring it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> -adrian
>>
>
> Hello,
>
> I usually linten to youtube when doing poudriere builds. Music helps the process and poudriere build better.
>
> I use an usb dac with:
>
> hw.snd.latency=10
> hw.usb.uaudio.buffer_ms=8
>
> IMHO it helps a little.

neat. again, if you can reproduce this then please file a bug, include
information about your hardware
and what you're doing on it to elicit the terrible behviour.




-adrian


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