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Date:      Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:08:14 +0100
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        sthaug@nethelp.no
Cc:        kjohnso8@columbus.rr.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing
Message-ID:  <20011226130814.A13115@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <97595.1009359920@verdi.nethelp.no>; from sthaug@nethelp.no on Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 10:45:20AM %2B0100
References:  <001301c18de9$c7ed5240$3602a8c0@columbus.rr.com> <97595.1009359920@verdi.nethelp.no>

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On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 10:45:20AM +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> > Well gee Tom.... if one end doesn't respond to negotiation... are you saying
> > the smart end will force a speed or duplex that can't possibly work? Lets
> > say I have an old 10Mbs ONLY card... are you declaring that it gets toasted
> > by auto-negotiate every single time?
> 
> It's very simple. The devices at each end of a TP cable can autodetect
> speed. However, if the duplex mode is locked (set manually) at one end
> (whether it is locked at half or full duplex), you *cannot* depend on
> the other end to get the correct duplex mode. Sometimes it will work,
> sometimes it won't.
> 
> Thus the advice to either use auto-negotiate everywhere, or use manual
> everywhere. One end auto-negotiate and one end manual is a recipe for
> disaster.

So, that implies that in these cases non-managable switches are doomed
as you cannot 'hard-set' them to some value.

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