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Date:      Sun, 16 Sep 2018 18:54:30 +0200
From:      Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>
To:        tech-lists <tech-lists@zyxst.net>
Cc:        Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>, "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" <stephen@missouri.edu>, "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Error validating server certificate
Message-ID:  <20180916165430.GG2118@home.opsec.eu>
In-Reply-To: <03f42d93-57b0-062d-0fee-720c6444e58c@zyxst.net>
References:  <f168a02e-8959-aa91-2190-8fbe6d61e07b@missouri.edu> <20180912143719.GQ24641@FreeBSD.org> <03f42d93-57b0-062d-0fee-720c6444e58c@zyxst.net>

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Hi!

> > You will not see this if you install the security/ca_root_nss port.

> Why is security/ca_root_nss not present in base?

There are several reasons:

- The project is hesistant to endorse certificate authorities (CAs), as some
  of them might be (or become) of questionable trust-worthyness
  during the lifetime of a release and adding/changing all or some to base
  would add workload to decide which ones to include or to exclude.

- The amount of work to cut a new release or a patch for a release
  is large. If you look at the update frequency for the port:
  https://www.freshports.org/security/ca_root_nss/
  it would burden the project with base updates just for the CAs.

- Some suggested that the FreeBSD project should operate its own CA and
  issue certs for project sites and include the CA into base.
  Running and securing a CA is not a simple endeavour so we hesitated
  to do so.

> I mean, on a brand new install, one goes to update the sources, and just 
> the sources. And this error is issued?
> 
> I think it looks bad. Do you agree?

Yes, we all agree that it looks bad, but we have not yet found a simple,
workable solution. Yes, it was discussed many times in the past.

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