Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 08:09:29 +0100 From: John Marino <dragonflybsd@marino.st> To: NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" <testing@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests Message-ID: <56482FA9.2010803@marino.st> In-Reply-To: <289892B6-EACE-4BDA-B838-D3DC750319DE@gmail.com> References: <CAG=rPVc1t2q_MR99iyWYfy4xrCy==KA1yT=EAaa2twiHoC=zcA@mail.gmail.com> <CAG=rPVfK6ZyWJhtuBihmj%2BWNp94auCJ3kDqoQm-ygXNpiLeatA@mail.gmail.com> <69242BD8-9010-47F0-9706-BE206376ECEA@gmail.com> <289892B6-EACE-4BDA-B838-D3DC750319DE@gmail.com>
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On 11/15/2015 4:46 AM, NGie Cooper wrote: > >> On Nov 14, 2015, at 19:28, NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote: > > … > >> Why were these locales removed? >> >> 58 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1/LC_COLLATE >> 59 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1/LC_CTYPE >> 60 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME >> 61 OLD_DIRS+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1 >> 62 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-13/LC_COLLATE >> 63 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-13/LC_CTYPE >> 64 OLD_DIRS+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-13 > > la_LN.ISO8859-1 is the old Latin locale, which is no longer installed. Copying over locale files from a stable/10 host works, but I’m confused as to why a bunch of locales weren’t ported over in their non-UTF-8 forms. > Thanks, > We (DragonFly) didn't just update locales. We took the opportunity to do spring cleaning. We didn't want to be as drastic as OpenBSD which removed all encodings except for C/POSIX and UTF, but we did remove several locales intentionally. In the case of ISO8859-1: All ISO8859-* is basically obsolete. In western Europe, if somebody wants ISO-8859, they want ISO8859-15, not ISO8859-1. They are similar, but the former is tailored for western europe with "Euro" currency and 9 other symbols. It comes at the expense of removing 10 characters from ISO8859-1. There's also a common problem that users view -15 documents with -1 accidently. So there was a conscience decision to have either ISO8859-1 or ISO8859-15 but not both. For western Europe this means the ISO8859-1 versions were dropped. ISO8859-15: In the case of USA and other non-European countries, they keep -1 and dropped -15. currency based: In the case of countries where the currency symbols is not part of ISO8859, it was dropped. E.g. Costa Rica uses the Colon which is only in UTF-8, so there's no ISO8859-* encoding at all for CR. Latin: Who speaks Latin today? This was mainly an alias for 7-bit ascii. We originally dropped that, but later moved it to US-ASCII (which was just a symlink to Latin before) Bapt liked DF approach well enough that he adopted it. Even Edwin was first in desiring to clean up locales. The major update was a perfect time. Bottom line: The testsuite needs to be updated. e.g. use de_DE.ISO8859-15 intead of de_DE.ISO8859-1 For latin, replace with US-ASCII equivalent. John
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