Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:35:33 -0600 From: Joe.Warner@smed.com To: Linh Pham <lplist@q.closedsrc.org> Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, goldtech@worldpost.com Subject: Re: new books, changing my pt. of view Message-ID: <85256920.005AFED7.00@Deimos.smed.com>
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Windows is easier to learn because of it's very nature. It doesn't really let you do things you can do with an OS like FreeBSD. Nor is it, in my opinion as stable as the BSD's. Because of the wide array of capabilities of OS' like FreeBSD, most newbies start with the GUI and eventually migrate to using the command prompt as their experience increases. Personally, I feel KDE was fairly easy to learn and use. I feel that as more information and publicity is made available regarding the strengths of the BSD OS, more people will flock to it and will want to learn more. I have FreeBSD 3.4 running on a Compaq Deskpro at work and have been using it sucessfully as a client/server. It's set up as an Apache server for our local intranet, an FTP server and a Samba server. From a client stand point, I've identified and reported problems on our network using the GNU Ethereal - Network Protocol Analyzer. My co-workers/managers have been impressed and are already showing an interest. I think if the BSD community gets the same recognition as the Linux community has been getting lately and more publications are made available, more people will flock to it and realize what a great OS it truly is. |--------+------------------------> | | Linh Pham | | | <lplist@q.clos| | | edsrc.org> | | | | | | 07/18/00 09:53| | | AM | | | | |--------+------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: leegold <goldtech@worldpost.com> | | cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, (bcc: Joe | | Warner/SMS) | | Subject: Re: new books, changing my pt. of | | view | >--------------------------------------------------------| I agree that Windows is easier to learn from the standpoint of a newbie and Joe Coworker and there isn't anything wrong with that. I personally dual-boot between Windows NT 4 and FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE at home and I use the latter just to tweak with it and learn more on my spare time. I generally recommend FreeBSD in situation where someone needs a server or a firewall and does not want to spend a fortune on software and hardware. Stability and performance is a huge key of FreeBSD and OpenBSD, but the price you have to pay is the somewhat steeper learning curve. The same goes with Visual Basic versus C/C++. The former is easy to learn and can do things relatively easy, but it's no where nearly as stable or as universal as C/C++. I'm not saying that FreeBSD stinks as being a client OS, but that's not only the fault of FreeBSD nor is it the goal of FreeBSD (I could be wrong). The UI/GUI most be as easy to learn as Windows before anyone starts flocking towards it. // Linh Pham // // Proud supporter of FreeBSD and OpenBSD // FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org // OpenBSD - http://www.openbsd.org /* "Oregon, n.: Eighty billion gallons of water with no place to go on Saturday night." */ On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, leegold wrote: > Isn't anybody worried that the new O'Reilly books in the making will leave > the newbie w/the short end of the stick paper documentation-wise? Imo, this > is the current state of affairs. > > wait a second, > > But upon refection, I have been realizing that I am DIRECTLY comparing WinNT > and FreeBSD and I now think it's apples vs. oranges. A fairer comparison is > FreeBSD WITH KDE vs. WinNT. > > I know I'll be publicly flogged for saying this but NT is easier to learn > and is apparently an easier OS to document for the newbie ( by is very > nature and culture ) than Unix a.k.a. FreeBSD. I am primarily talking about > CLIENTS - yeah I think NT workstation is a good client. Kneejerks that it > crashes is not true Imo. > > But, I'm immature: > > I think I should get w/the program and start thinking of FreeBSD as a server > and NOT continue trying to configure and learning it as an ultra-stable > ( x ) windows client machine - cause I'm in that "mode" and I saw the > "answer" months ago - KDE w/all the bells and whistles - truly amazing. > > so, x windows works, I can use Netscape if I have to. I think I have to > explore the "core" of FreeBSD - as the ultimate internet server OS vs. > client. Whatdya think? > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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