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Date:      Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:12:55 +0300
From:      Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
Cc:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>, "John W. De Boskey" <jwd@bsdwins.com>, Current List <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cp -d dir patch for review (or 'xargs'?)
Message-ID:  <3AE019B7.6C76556A@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20010420050842.E8EA93E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org>

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Dima Dorfman wrote:

> Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> writes:
> > Or maybe something to indicate where the list of arguments
> > should go in a command.  Hrm.  Let's say '-Y replstr' or
> > '-y[replstr]' (no blank after -y).  If no [replstr] is
> > given on -y, it defaults to the two characters '[]'.
> > Then one might do:
> >        cat big_file_list | xargs -y cp [] target_directory
>
> This is a great idea!  I'm willing to implement it if nobody else
> wants to.
>
> > you're trying to address.  On the other hand, the man page
> > for 'xargs' on FreeBSD says:
> >
> >       The xargs utility is expected to be IEEE Std 1003.2
> >       (``POSIX.2'') compliant.
> >
> > so I don't know how we go about adding options to it.  On
> > the other hand, that same issue is faced by adding options
> > to 'cp', as there is a similar claim made in cp's man page.
>
> I don't think it's a problem.  We're adding new options here, not
> changing--sometimes known as breaking--what already exists.  I'm
> pretty sure that the standards don't say anything to the effect of,
> "You must support this and nothing else."  That'd be rather silly.

I don't think that introducing a new option in the tool that expected
to be compatible among several systems is a good thing. Once new option
is introduced and documented, people would start using it, in many
cases even without a notion that this option is FreeBSD specific, which
will obviously lead to users' confusion and scripts incompatabilities.
The right way to go, IMO, is to introduce a simple wrapper for xargs
(say yargs), that it will be clearly documented as a FreeBSD scecific
thing.

-Maxim


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