Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:29:53 -0400 From: Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com> To: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: I've got a major question... Message-ID: <CAHieY7TmPvtthJ9af4NeLj5RcK3m=0nypXLT4ZTE7PHxXzDhqQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux> References: <c99b07c9-f497-b04e-ee40-a09aec33173d@sound-by-design.com> <CAHieY7RLfbTrqrUPnbTGA-bMnbmC7hYsmnPe%2B8Wb07NpWtsszQ@mail.gmail.com> <cdb5f984-d2cc-bf55-fb75-534b4aed48f9@sound-by-design.com> <20190626063443.51ad3f1b.freebsd@edvax.de> <CAHieY7Q-EZNYwKFXVUagMcfQj34g7nR4MXhpLYF7fS8hRmpYQg@mail.gmail.com> <20190627081518.9dc6f3c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux>
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 3:11 AM Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 08:15:18 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > >I know, this is a very individual point of view and experience, but > >as you can see: It _is_ possible, and it starts with the right > >decision. :-) > > Hi, > > it makes a big difference, if somebody needs to ask for recommendations > or not. It makes a difference, if somebody is assuming "probably > Canonical/Ubuntu would be a better fit than FreeBSD" or knows if it > does or does not. > > > [...] > There's no paper shop without magazines promoting Linux container > approaches as the ultimate solution for everything. Take, for example, > Ubuntu's snap thingy. Due to the container approach some software might > be unable to provide full functionality, since access to software > outside the container could be tricky, even impossible. > > We are discussing a Desktop environment, not virtualization nor containers. For the Desktop, there is not a single Linux distribution that is more user friendly than Ubuntu and FreeBSD is not especially user-friendly when it comes to using it on the Desktop: I am referring to hardware and software compatibility with every day tasks, ease of use and community and/or commercial support. Regarding Linux containers IMHO they are just a bad copy of FreeBSD Jails and in my own projects both personal and my own companies I use FreeBSD with EzJail and I can do what other people are doing with Docker and Terrfaform, etc. Nevertheless, in the mainstream IT industry, sadly FreeBSD Jails are not well known, nor is FreeBSD in general. I say sadly, because it would be a great contender to all the Linux container-based stuff that is being used today. IIRC I started a thread a while ago suggesting that Jails should be rebranded to FreeBSD Containers and things like EzJail should be native. But no one seemed interested in this discussion. > I'm absolutely pro Linux, FreeBSD and anything FLOSS for desktop > computers, but to get work done, I'm using a proprietary product > named after a fruit, too and I at least need to run wine-staging on > Linux, too. Wine isn't without pitfalls. > > Agreed, Wine seems to have run it's course IMHO. Use actual Windows, even if virtualized, when running Windows-based software. > Assuming a company gets work done on proprietary operating systems, > then ensure that migrating to FreeBSD or a Linux distro does provide > what is needed and that the software worked in the past, at the moment > and doesn't have dependencies against phase-out model libraries. > > Choosing a Linux distro is not easy to do and depends much on the > target. > > Here I have to disagree. I used Linux on the desktop _exclusively_ from 1998 to 2012 and I tried most, if not all, the main distros throughout that time and Ubuntu always won in terms of ease of use and compatibility and stuff just works. NVL when I switched to Mac in 2012 it was like having the best of of both worlds and now I am stuck with the complete Apple ecosystem, but I keep using FreeBSD in my servers (since 2006). Best, Alex
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