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Date:      Thu, 3 May 2001 16:10:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Archie Cobbs <archie@packetdesign.com>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: bin/26996: sshd fails when / mounted read-only
Message-ID:  <200105032310.f43NA3Y03814@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR bin/26996; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Archie Cobbs <archie@packetdesign.com>
To: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: bin/26996: sshd fails when / mounted read-only
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 16:00:40 -0700

 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 > > Kris Kennaway wrote:
 > > > >       This patch fixes the problem, but may cause other
 > > > >       security problems (or may not, I'm not sure):
 > > >
 > > > In fact it does; if the ownership and permissions of pty devices isn't
 > > > changed it allows any other users on the system to read and write to
 > > > that pty, snooping passwords and the like.  The real solution would be
 > > > to use devfs or mount your /dev on a MFS or something (with a minimal
 > > > static /dev on / to handle bootstrapping).
 > >
 > > So, how about a flag to sshd to make it allow this behavior with
 > > suitably strong warnings in the man page?
 > 
 > I'm not sure about this..our ssh code is already difficult enough to
 > update because of divergences.  It would be up to Brian.
 > 
 > > Also, how come e.g. telnetd doesn't have the same problem? If telnetd
 > > can work why can't sshd?
 > 
 > Not immediately sure.
 
 ...so either telnetd has a security hole, or this bug can be fixed
 without lessening security. Either way, we should do something.. :-)
 
 It seems like it should be OK to leave the tty owned by root/wheel
 (if that's who owns it) because they are a secure user and group..?
 I.e., if either one is broken then you have larger security problems
 to worry about.
 
 -Archie
 
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