Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 03:55:20 +0200 From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Cc: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>, chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: email vs. e-mail, was Re: cvs commit:src/sys/alpha/alpha clock.c Message-ID: <p05111721b91348e8c514@[10.0.1.8]> In-Reply-To: <3CED8FF9.45DB8D2A@mindspring.com> References: <200205162121.g4GLLGQ43405@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020516220511.A9DBE380A@overcee.wemm.org> <20020517114010.A57127@regency.nsu.ru> <20020519100324.GK44562@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <20020519134348.I67779@blossom.cjclark.org> <p05111722b90de01cc974@[10.9.8.215]> <20020520195703.A79046@dragon.nuxi.com> <p05111701b90fb2744154@[10.9.8.215]> <20020521122955.A31528@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <p05111706b90fe527be6d@[10.0.1.4]> <20020524013232.C13780@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <p05111720b9133b509561@[10.0.1.8]> <3CED8FF9.45DB8D2A@mindspring.com>
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At 5:57 PM -0700 2002/05/23, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Contact: greg@censoft.com
Will do.
> He wrote some of the first email software every written, as an
> undergraduate at UCSD. Greg was my boss at my first "real job"
> after college. Among other things, we shipped the very first
> shrink-wrapped application software for UNIX.
Looking at the rfc-index, the first relevant entry I find is:
0453 Meeting announcement to discuss a network mail system. M.D.
Kudlick. Feb-07-1973. (Format: TXT=4572 bytes) (Status: UNKNOWN)
However, looking through this file, they never use the term
"email" or "e-mail". They do use the term "network mail", however.
They also use the plain "mail" term, as well as "NIC Journal mail".
Looking through the RFCs, the earliest apparently relevant use I
find of the term "e-mail" is in RFC 977:
USENET uses a spooling area on the UNIX host to store news articles,
one per file. Each article consists of a series of heading text,
which contain the sender's identification and organizational
affiliation, timestamps, electronic mail reply paths, subject,
newsgroup (subject category), and the like. A complete news article
is reproduced in its entirety below. Please consult RFC 850 for more
details.
Relay-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site
sdcsvax.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 SMI; site unitek.uucp
Path:sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!qantel!ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision!unitek
!honman
From: honman@unitek.uucp (Man Wong)
Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards
Subject: foreground -> background ?
Message-ID: <167@unitek.uucp>
Date: 25 Sep 85 23:51:52 GMT
Date-Received: 29 Sep 85 09:54:48 GMT
Reply-To: honman@unitek.UUCP (Hon-Man Wong)
Distribution: net.all
Organization: Unitek Technologies Corporation
Lines: 12
I have a process (C program) which generates a child and waits for
it to return. What I would like to do is to be able to run the
child process interactively for a while before kicking itself into
the background so I can return to the parent process (while the
child process is RUNNING in the background). Can it be done? And
if it can, how?
Please reply by E-mail. Thanks in advance.
Hon-Man Wong
Whereas the term "email" doesn't show up until RFC 1060:
Authors' Addresses:
Joyce K. Reynolds
University of Southern California
Information Sciences Institute
4676 Admiralty Way
Marina del Rey, CA 90292
Phone: (213) 822-1511
Email: JKREY@ISI.EDU
Jon Postel
University of Southern California
Information Sciences Institute
4676 Admiralty Way
Marina del Rey, CA 90292
Phone: (213) 822-1511
Email: POSTEL@ISI.EDU
Continuing the back-and-forth consideration, the term "email"
doesn't appear to be used anywhere in rfc-index.txt itself, except at
the very top, whereas "e-mail" does occur in the titles of a number
of RFCs.
Counting sheer numbers, in my somewhat dated RFC archive, I find
1244 uses of the word "e-mail" in 325 unique RFCs, but 6062 uses of
the word "email" in 1904 unique RFCs. However, a number of documents
(296) seem to use both forms.
Hmm. Based on this, I'm not quite sure what to think.
--
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
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