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Date:      Sat, 14 Oct 2000 17:13:07 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Our kernel just got too big again. :) 
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010141712290.5383-100000@zeppo.feral.com>
In-Reply-To: <53853.971568753@winston.osd.bsdi.com>

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> > Hmm?... my forth is poor, but I don't believe that's the issue. If I
> > understand how the floppies currently work is that it's just like our normal
> > boot loader- we start coming up. If you want to load other drivers or modules
> > (like ispfw), you hit the 'other than Enter' to stop the loading progress,
> > switch floppies and load ispfw, davicom ethernet, a splash screen with
> > jordan's face, whatever...then you type 'boot'- then the normal mfsroot flopp
> 
> The problem with such an approach is that it's not very user-friendly
> to first-time installers who have no idea how to drive the loader.
> Let's not forget the linux installation floppy saga and all the
> confusion it's caused people just in trying to figure out which
> floppies to use.  That would be where the forth hackery comes in - an
> additional set of menu options which make it a no-brainer to insert the
> kernel module floppy.

Okay. It's your thuktun, as Niven would write....

> 
> > you're sure this doesn't work. If you're email to -current was "only answers
> > with patches against -current will be heard", you really should have said so.
> 
> No, that wasn't the point of my email.  My email was originally
> intended to solicit suggestions about options to remove from the
> kernel so that the *existing* mechanism would go back to working
> again.  Adding a 3rd floppy to the mix is an option which has occurred
> to all of us at one time or another and even been a topic for fierce
> debate in the FreeBSD mailing lists.  I would have preferred not to go
> there in this thread. :)

Okay. I have no suggestions as to what to remove then.





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