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Date:      Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:46:42 +1000 (EST)
From:      Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
To:        rivers@dignus.com (Thomas David Rivers)
Cc:        dcs@newsguy.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: another ufs panic..
Message-ID:  <199903281546.BAA20216@cheops.anu.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199903281534.KAA02722@lakes.dignus.com> from "Thomas David Rivers" at Mar 28, 99 10:34:05 am

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In some mail from Thomas David Rivers, sie said:
> 
> > Darren Reed wrote:
> > > 
> > > I never realised ufs was so bad on freebsd...I experienced another
> > > panic whilst using pax to copy one fs to another (was already 90% there
> > > on the destination due to the crash from dump/restore).
> > 
> > Neither did anyone else, since nobody seems to have the problem you
> > describe. Or, if they do, they are so screwed up that they can't
> > even open a PR. So... how about opening a PR?
[...]
>  It is a problem which is difficult to reproduce.
> 
>  Several discussions about this particular problem have been had
> for about two years now... under various heading; the most humorous
> was the "Dave Rivers memorial panic" :-)  You can find such
> discussions in the mail archive.
> 
>  If you have a reliable reproduction of it; we'd sure be
> interested in the details.

Maybe later I'll try it again...right now I'm looking for a good way to
quickly copy files from disk to disk...  pax seems to interfere a lot with
file modes, etc trying rsync now but maybe I have to go back to tar!

>  Just for what its worth - I don't believe the problem to be in the UFS code,
> but at a lower level.  That's just my opinion...

Hmmm.

[...]
>  And... lastly, with a possibly SCSI-related problem - be sure termination 
> is right.  Don't trust the 2940UW auto-termination, do it yourself.

FWIW, I had a lot of trouble getting termination "right" - I've internal
8bit, external 8bit and internal 16bit SCSI devices (which I'm not sure is
actually supported...).  But anyway, NT installed ok, as did BSDi (but both
onto the 2GB disk - BSDi 4.0 doesn't seem to know about targets > 7 on their
boot diskette...sigh).

darren


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