Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:28:58 +0200 From: Nikolay Pavlov <qpadla@gmail.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering (Repost from -ports@) Message-ID: <200712051629.03187.qpadla@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47541063.4010101@gmail.com> References: <47541063.4010101@gmail.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Monday 03 December 2007 16:19:15 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > [Repost from -ports@] > > As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at > least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should > remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates > if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have > volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what > changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this > thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the > following broad questions for people: > > 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports > system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? the underlaying OS > > 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is > the most common interaction you have with it? upgrading selected ports via portupgrade, at least once per month > > 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? Automation and simplicity of the port installation procedure, granularity of ports building process. > > 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? a management and compilation time overhead when number of installed ports are significant (for Desktops it's a waste of time and resources); inability to keep only binary based installations due to lack of official package updates between RELEASES; very complicated and not automatic pkg-plist mechanism; inability to forceably purge the configuration files; inability to cross-architecture building; inability to downgrade; inability to predict download and installation volume for all the dependencies even for binary installations; inability to maintain base system as a collection of ports; > 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above > change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? I'd to use some sort of gui and binary based installation procedure. > 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you > use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? Yes. > > 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? Yes. > > 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? Since FreeBSD 4.7 > > 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto > 3)? Production servers, development boxes. > > 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred > installation method for 3rd party software? only ports > > 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the > importance of the following aspects of the ports system? > > a. User Interface 5 > b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions 1 > c. Accuracy in dependant port installations 2 > d. Internal record keeping 3 > e. Granularity's of the port management system 4 > > 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? High -- ====================================================================== - Best regards, Nikolay Pavlov. <<<----------------------------------- ====================================================================== [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHVrWv/2R6KvEYGaIRAnQhAKDgExkyRfMTf7KLKa51B8ezohTi9QCfZ+En IWMUMp57sxc8CW7lrC/ZFe8= =n9eC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----help
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