Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:14:13 +0000 From: Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org> To: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> Cc: current@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nightly snapshot for CURRENT ? Message-ID: <20200727141413.GH34565@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20200725122942.dcdfc0211bf6ab0706c86587@bidouilliste.com> References: <20200609214756.13e9cbbc2de12bbb78839875@bidouilliste.com> <20200609195630.GN97889@FreeBSD.org> <20200609220407.d745b7a073f58254ff2db714@bidouilliste.com> <20200724223135.7f3522f97968ce82b9b245ad@bidouilliste.com> <20200724220607.GG34565@FreeBSD.org> <20200725001452.152479d2afe405bfc4302863@bidouilliste.com> <20200724222839.GG61041@FreeBSD.org> <20200725122942.dcdfc0211bf6ab0706c86587@bidouilliste.com>
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--/2994txjAzEdQwm5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:29:42PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 22:28:39 +0000 > Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org> wrote: >=20 > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:14:52AM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 22:06:07 +0000 > > > Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org> wrote: > > >=20 > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:31:35PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 22:04:07 +0200 > > > > > Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> wrote: > > > > >=20 > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 19:56:30 +0000 > > > > > > Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 09:47:56PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrot= e: > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > I've just hit again something that I've hit (and probably = others too) > > > > > > > > often. > > > > > > > > If a change in base break some ports and it's snapshoted i= n the txz > > > > > > > > available at download.freebsd.org, you need to wait a week = for the next > > > > > > > > tarball to be available. > > > > > > > > Since poudriere uses the tarball when you setup a jail it = means that > > > > > > > > the only solution you have is to recreate your jail by buil= ding it, and > > > > > > > > since building world nowdays is very expensive that delay y= our work too > > > > > > > > much. > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to generate the tarballs every day in= stead of > > > > > > > > every week ? At least for tier-1 arches. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Let's revisit this sometime next week after 11.4 is out. > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Sure, works for me. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > Ping ? > > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > I thought the artifacts from the jenkins builder for CI were suffic= ient. > > > >=20 > > > > Glen > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Yes and no, > > >=20 > > > I can add something to poudriere for getting the tarballs from the CI > > > artifacts but that won't be by default. > > >=20 > >=20 > > To be honest, that would be the preferred route, since updating the > > various *.txz distribution sets would break things like bootonly.iso, > > mini-memstick.img, and so on. >=20 > Why would it break things ? >=20 The bootonly.iso and mini-memstick.img do not contain the distribution sets, only the MANIFEST file. So, people using these to install a system would not be able to do so, because the checksums for the sets would not match that in the MANIFEST. > > In other words, we already have a system in place that generates these > > archive files, so I personally see no need to disrupt the "official" > > snapshot build process to appease a subset of the user base while > > unnecessarily adding a pain point for the rest. > >=20 >=20 > If only the sets are generated each day I don't see how it can cause a > pain to anyone. >=20 See above. Glen --/2994txjAzEdQwm5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEjRJAPC5sqwhs9k2jAxRYpUeP4pMFAl8e4TUACgkQAxRYpUeP 4pORuBAAkJT/w3NNOc4wCr71ada5e9Aj5xniFB71ej/cRb1rtetDlofzq/mwHP0N TvNTmYG4dpD/mKchQA7FzGFBkuUDs9Ml2GRWazh3J8FcAFQ6TCxedRO8vVh+vSq5 UBlxH4DlzfF3DiD00KiMA5YoogY/QJfnDj/gNec4HX+myqZR3EDs2AjlCkcKv8RB MvhpzS9ssKpnA3twfdsGZg8H3uGonnnWwTroYqxMlRlRQkV/iP1KBxzs2bCqaryP 0Hjf7UZpQiz0vu7XEJywvC0figrTP5880qOsFapzVJu6CPz69dQU8lHUMatyCo9u +LFBWA7sl0/bBQ11bysqS24RDAG33Ie51WKdtdXnL68X+f2Yy02PgjhhEQSjSSoP F6SVCwmlQHJcFR/0c9cKqgSwLpEsA5TeRuSCvR4QVtyIR/O4RHIfo7zx1cnOnVsY VAtrbs86M8qHbMHg4PNFrm9Pf0mb0WGbdhJ/T4h+32EM9JuISyWX+TPTH8RD2lrG RyauPhMvbluki2lhdtSfqiETVsVJHOANnPmxh/E0XVllhghSXmz88DpTPftR3GzL aEZuNb/y1WVlxyYBuLlV/JcKLRhdBH/wVY7XEEt4GkuROxgxI5ug4EZVlzVfsvTm Vg25gofqvxgr/wMm0PxtkWqvWIXe3YM2D4b2D7ivTFZOXARpHk4= =SVTc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/2994txjAzEdQwm5--
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