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Date:      Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:22:04 -0600
From:      Don Wilde <Don@Silver-Lynx.com>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Eric, you were right!
Message-ID:  <3B45BB7C.A50497E6@Silver-Lynx.com>
References:  <3B44C80C.FF06D16C@Silver-Lynx.com> <20010706013656.B48685@xor.obsecurity.org>

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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 02:03:24PM -0600, Don Wilde wrote:
> > Looks like Eric Wayte was right in his premonition about Wind River
> > screwing us over.  Their freebsdmall website is now a link to something
> > called BSD Central, and their phone box says 'Welcome to Linux
> > Central'.... and of course nobody's in in Customer Service.
> >
> > I ordered a BSD Desktop direct from freebsdmall.com -- at full list --
> > because their (old) site claimed it would come with 4.3 CDs. Guess who's
> > got another obsolete set of 4.1 CDs sitting on his hands? :-(
> 
> I think people need to think twice before condemning WRS as Satan's
> newest earth-bound franchisee; they've just bought a whole bunch of
> assets and are no doubt still trying to figure out just what to do
> with them.  Polite feedback to the relevant people about what they
> could do better may well work wonders :-)
> 

Hi, Kris -

Somebody else's comment relating WR to M$ is not totally off base.
They've made their money sucking up our tax dollars through the military
budget.

I did send them a polite(r) message when I finally got to a WRS e-mail.
They took over in April, and it's now July. Given that things used to
work, I have little patience with people who can't _keep_ basic things
working. They sure got their logos up on the site in a hurry!

As for the future being dim, I agree with you. Not a chance! This is
exactly the kind of situation FBSD needs to wean itself finally from
dependence on any one company, as the response to Wes Peters' thread is
showing. As for Jordan's departure to Apple, I think people need to
remember that _he_ was the one who announce@'d the Release Schedule.
Even if he isn't "it" any more, it doesn't sound like he will be out of
the picture. I think it is very important that the Coordinator NOT be a
Wind River employee, as tempting as that may be for short-term
stability.

The new Foundation sounds like the right mechanism at just the right
nick of time. It is just as important to make sure that WR doesn't get
the baby by fiat as it is that we don't let it go down the drain.
-- 
Don Wilde           http://www.Silver-Lynx.com
Silver Lynx   Embedded Microsystems Architects
2218 Southern Bl. Ste. 12 Rio Rancho, NM 87124
505-891-4175                      FAX 891-4185

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