Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:57:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Holm Tiffe <freebsd@magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de> To: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Arrgh ! resubscribing again again again.... Message-ID: <199807111457.QAA05465@magnet.geophysik.tu-freiberg.de> In-Reply-To: <199807110925.CAA16987@usr08.primenet.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jul 11, 98 09:25:11 am"
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> > This problem in the VM Subsystem persists since around mid of January > > 1998 and ther was already a thread on this lists about "dying daemons". > > [ ... ] > > > Jun 3 16:10:20 magnet /kernel: swap_pager: suggest more swap space: 61 MB > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > This comes from starting netscape 4.05 > > > > and now: > > > > Jun 3 16:12:17 magnet su: holm to root on /dev/ttyp3 > > Jun 3 16:15:10 magnet su: holm to freebsd on /dev/ttyp2 > > Jun 3 16:31:43 magnet /kernel: pid 3385 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > > > > This is what I mean ! > > This is normal. Terry, I think I don't understand fully what you have written later, but one thing I know: It is ok, that sendmail dies when it forks when netscape is running, but it is all but not ok, when sendmails childs are dying when no netscape is running anymore ! When this case is ok, then the swap/VM algorithms are bad and faulty! Any time, when the system was under high load, I have to kill the daemons per hand and to restart (or reboot). This can't be ok. This is a way to crash a FreeBSD with a userland program. I don't have seen this behavior before Jan/98, when the above behavior is correct, then please give us the old VM - System back. Better to have a slow VM then a faulty one. [..] Holm -- ******************************************************************************* * Holm Tiffe holm@geophysik.tu-freiberg.de * * Freiberger Strasse 24 * * 09600 Kleinschirma, Germany Microsoft is not the Answer - * * Tel.: 49 3731 74233 Microsoft is the Question, * * UUCP: 49 3731 73719 unicorn!holm and the Answer is no ! * ******************************************************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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