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Date:      Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:06:58 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        max@love2party.net
Cc:        ed@80386.nl, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, uqs@spoerlein.net, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, des@des.no, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, rafan@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r194628 - head/lib/ncurses/ncurses
Message-ID:  <20090630.150658.1306326527.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <200906302252.53894.max@love2party.net>
References:  <20090630.094632.195416436.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090630193712.GA5446@roadrunner.spoerlein.net> <200906302252.53894.max@love2party.net>

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            Max Laier <max@love2party.net> writes:
: On Tuesday 30 June 2009 21:37:12 Ulrich Sp=F6rlein wrote:
: > On Tue, 30.06.2009 at 09:46:32 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > > In message: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0906301631470.28381@fledge.watson.or=
g>
: > >
: > >             Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: > > : On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > > : > Last time this BBQ came up, I thought it was agreed that ther=
e
: > > : > would be a xterm-XXX that didn't do this behavior for those f=
olks
: > > : > that think the current behavior is harmfully wrong...
: > > :
: > > : Whereas I think it's a bug in more(1)/less(1) that it tries to =
use
: > > : those sequences...
: > >
: > > Agreed.  vi too.  I'll note that on Mac OS, in the xterm, you don=
't
: > > see this with either...  But I don't know how to undo tic(1)
: > > formatting to get back to the raw xterm entries...
: >
: > For vim(1) you can use something like set t_ti=3D t_te=3D
: >
: > Btw, I do like the current behaviour, but if $PAGER can be coerced =
into
: > not clearing screen after exit, I think more people could be persua=
ded.
: =

: $ alias less=3D'less -X'
: =

:    -X or --no-init
:           Disables sending the termcap initialization and deinitializ=
ation
:           strings to the terminal.  This is  sometimes  desirable  if=
  the
:           deinitialization  string does something unnecessary, like c=
lear-
:           ing the screen.
: =

: It's one of the first things I do when I get a linux shell account =

: somewhere.

Looks like "setenv LESS -X" or "export LESS=3D-X" would do the same
thing, no?  And work for "more" too...

Warner



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