Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:09:57 +0200 From: Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de> To: Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> Cc: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>, Jules Gilbert via freebsd-pkg <freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Archives of last quarterly package builds? Message-ID: <201539A4-078E-4884-8FEB-CB512F9E4DBD@ultra-secure.de> In-Reply-To: <20180804063919.GI2118@home.opsec.eu> References: <CAD2Ti28J1UTKkLETgj0vJerHBX3SKOgpAOp6UkrhOR76TGpT%2Bg@mail.gmail.com> <34cb48da-1f15-1610-966d-1e30314f7665@freebsd.org> <CAD2Ti2--zdv4e_QvSfHL1prDAnGZyTvNYMzzgA_V%2B3LN6_RTEQ@mail.gmail.com> <20180803031744.GH2118@home.opsec.eu> <a6dda209-dc35-99ba-a87d-8035c2932df0@freebsd.org> <20180804063919.GI2118@home.opsec.eu>
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> Am 04.08.2018 um 08:39 schrieb Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>: > > The idea is: use the quarterlies, and if the next quarter comes, > upgrade to that quarterly. The quarterlies are a way to test > if we can provide some 'more stable tree' than HEAD for the ports. > > It's not perfect, and we all learn the use cases and the issues etc. > > I don't have the overview over all the posts on that issues, so: > is there a text that describes alternative approaches ? Something > where implementation can be discussed ? The problem is that different people have different foci. I think it’s assumed that one hosts and maintains his (or her) own copy of the ports-tree and maintains it according to one’s own focus-points. E.g.: if I was to maintain my own fork of the ports-tree, I’d lay the emphasis on a number of ports that greatly concern me (apache, php, nginx, varnish, python and some of its base-ports, plugins for nagios and some other stuff I’ve forgotten). I’d basically follow upstream with those very closely. The rest, I’d let dormant most of the time, unless a security-vulnerability made an update inevitable. But I’m really not in a position to do that, so I use the quarterly cuts. They are a good compromise. Sometimes, I copy over a port from HEAD to my quarterly checkout because I really want to have the update in. But that has become rare, actually. Different people have different requirements. I think if you need very high stability, you’ll likely end up using something else (CentOS+ Software Collections - or Ubuntu, if you’re really desperate...) Certainly, someone from the foundation or some other company has done the math on what it would take (man-power and financials) to maintain certain subsets of the ports for longer than three months. Or everything. It will, however, be almost impossible to get it right for everybody.home | help
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