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Date:      Wed, 24 May 2006 09:26:59 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Yuriy.Tsibizov@gfk.ru
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, des@des.no, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Alexander@Leidinger.net
Subject:   Re: Call for testing: emu10kx driver for Creative sound cards
Message-ID:  <20060524.092659.74738447.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <D6B2C454E5A77B4D8DA0B863D3D6D492CC3458@demon.hhp.local>

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From: "Yuriy Tsibizov" <Yuriy.Tsibizov@gfk.ru>
Subject: RE: Call for testing: emu10kx driver for Creative sound cards
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:39:57 +0400

> > + .Pp
> > + Sysctl nodes provided by drivers should not be considered to be
> > + permanant unless they are documented in the driver's man page.
> > + Names which start with _ denote a tree or node which is considered
> > + impermanant and should not be relied up by code elsewhere in the
> > + system.
> > + Driver writers should use the sysctl infrastructure provided by
> > + .Xr device_get_sysctl_ctx 9 
> > + and
> > + .Xr device_get_sysctl_tree 9
> > + for their sysctls.
> > + Drivers should migrate from past interfaces to this new 
> > interface, but
> > + provide, where needed, backwards compatibility shims.
> > + These facilities export the sysctl as 
> > dev.<driver-name>.<unit>.attribute.
> 
> Should sound drivers (pcm* device) be documented as an exception from this? 
> They use snd_sysctl_tree_top() to get tree OID under hw.snd.pcmX and 
> snd_sysctl_tree() to get their context.

No.  They should not.  They should provide the old compatibility stuff
in the old place, but also provide it in the correct place.

Warner


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