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Date:      Tue, 23 May 2000 23:38:39 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <DougB@gorean.org>
To:        "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>, "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/ncurses/include curses.h.in  src/contrib/ncurses/ncurses/trace lib_trace.c
Message-ID:  <392B78EF.8EDD4674@gorean.org>
References:  <20000523153625.A30373@freebsd.org> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005231644430.49900-100000@dt051n0b.san.rr.com> <20000523223533.A26457@freebsd.org>

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"Andrey A. Chernov" wrote:
> 
> On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 04:49:00PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> >       This problem has been known for well over a month. Attempting to
> > contact the ncurses author, and/or discussing your propsed fix on one of
> 
> You describe exact situation I fear.  Over a month (sic!) nobody does not
> commit any fix of this bug but does 'contacts', 'discussions' and 'sending
> letters'.  Are we here just for talks?

	You're arguing on both sides of this. The fact remains that you did not
take the more desirable action of contacting the ncurses author, or even
our own mailing lists before taking your action. My point was that the
situation had already existed for a long time, and would not be
seriously damaged by waiting another day or two. Even though the
situation was known in certain circles, the "call to arms" to fix it had
not been sounded yet. There was no lack of action, because no action had
yet been called for. 

> >       For instance, another acceptable short term solution to fix bash
> > would be to comment out the trace() function temporarily, since it's only
> 
> It is not acceptable. trace() is user name space function and can be used
> freely, it is not part of libtermcap interface. /bin/sh people already go this
> wrong way renaming trace() to sh_trace(). Really I don't understand why
> to fix application (moreover, lots of them) when the bug is in the library.

	Please don't try to distort what people are telling you here. We all
want the real problem fixed. The author of ncurses wanted it fixed, in
fact he fixed it already. The fact remains, you took a fairly drastic
action without any discussion, and as it turns out, without cause. What
we're all hoping is that this kind of misunderstanding can be avoided in
the future. 

Doug
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