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Date:      Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:23:35 -0600
From:      Gary Warner <gar@askgar.com>
To:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   What Version (GNOME - gnomeprint034, bonobo018)
Message-ID:  <3C7CF9F7.52B86A9D@askgar.com>

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I'm not new to Unix, but I'm definitely new to FreeBSD.

I have spent somewhere upwards of 20 hours "messing with" a new FreeBSD
box.  I used my Windows box to make the 2 disk boot start, and my cable
modem has done an admirable job of sucking down gigs and gigs of aborted
attempts at packages and ports.

I got through configuring my XFree86, which took some time because I
didn't know I needed the Mach64 version of the server, but that's done.
The lesson I learned in that portion of the FreeBSD adventure was "The
Handbook is Your Friend.  Read the Handbook".

Then I went to try to go GNOME, and its a mess.

I have been working with 4.5-RELEASE as my version, and my basic
problems are that anything I try to do working with GNOME has
dependencies on packages that don't exist anymore in the 4.5 trees.
"bonobo" and "gnome-print" are the two biggest ones that come to mind.

For instance, if you head over to:
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/gnome.html

you will see that many things on the page require
"gnome-print-0.34"
"bonobo-1.0.18"

if you flip over to:
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/print.html#gnomeprint-0.34

you can click on "sources" to find out where to get gnomeprint, and
you'll see that all the sources list "gnome-print-0.35.tar.gz"

In the various ftp#.freebsd.org sites, you will find that there are
sym-links to "gnome-print-0.34.tgz", but guess what?  They are sym-links
to dead air!  No such file!

(Examples:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.5-release/gnome/gnomeprint-0.34.tgz

(well....as I check my "Examples" I see that bonobo-1.0.18.tgz is
available now.  hmmmph))


My FreeBSD friends encouraged me not to do packages, but to do ports, so
I retrieved the entire ports.tgz (taking everything, lest I omit
something critical), and following their instructions do my "make &&
make install" at various places in the gnome section of the ports tree.

They all fail.  They are all looking for gnome-print 0.34 and
bonobo1.0.18, which as far as I can tell, DO NOT EXIST.

Finally my FreeBSD friend came to the house.  He said, "OH!  Here's your
problem!  You are trying to run 4.5!  You should only run even numbered
releases.  The odd ones are buggy!"

When I emailed the FreeBSD GNOME people, I got the reply:

   There was a problem with posting certain packages to the FTP sites.
   This is currently being investigated.  However, if you've found
updated
   packages, FTP them down manually, then pkg_add them from disk

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Well, I haven't found PACKAGES -- I've found '.tar.gz' files, which
can't be pkg_add'ed.

So, what does this newbie do?  Should I listen to my friends advice and
go back to 4.4??

Advice welcome,

_-_
gar the newbie


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