Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 02:38:18 -0800 From: Dave Hayes <dave@kachina.jetcafe.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a damn 2nd disk Message-ID: <199603201038.CAA25463@kachina.jetcafe.org>
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"Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> writes:
>> (I'm really pissed, so I probably shouldn't be sending this. I'll
>> try not to flame, no promises though.)
>> *Why* the hell is adding a 2nd disk to a currently running OS Guru
>> level lore?
>Because few people work with us to make it turnkey.
Why is that?
>> It should be a turnkey operation like it is on other UNIX.
>I await your code.
>> Searching the archives and the docs produces *no* useful information,
>> other than the fact that this is a FAQ and no one seems to answer it.
>I await your text.
I await it too. Gee, if I understood it well enough to automate it,
I'd have done so, my server would be in it's previous state, and there
would have been no flame. But the tools don't work. Fdisk doesn't
work reliably. Without fdisk, disklabel seems worthless.
Unfortunately, there's a LOT to learn about this particular invocation
of BSD and why it does what it does. I'd much rather spend the time
seeing what it can do, and getting other companies interested in using
it.
If, however, they see experienced administrators struggle with adding
a 2nd disk (something that DOS can do in seconds, we all *like* UNIX
on this list right?), it doesn't look so good does it?
I guess I'm questioning priorities in an absence of any knowledge
about why. Losing an entire server because of a bug in sysinstall
tends to get some people to flame first, and ask questions later.
>In other words, things get better around here because PEOPLE MAKE THEM
>BETTER. That's what a volunteer group like this is all about, and if
>you think that there's some magic wellspring of effort that can be
>tapped every time someone sends us a flame like this then you're very
>much mistaken.
Actually, I had no such delusions. I just sort of think adding a 2nd
disk should be commonsensically easy.
>Most of our most useful features came out of someone
>like yourself being frustrated by something AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT
>IT.
I did. I just rebuilt my server, and acquired more experience with
sysinstall. That's something, isn't it?
>end-user. I can only hope that there's a special help desk in hell
>for such people where they're forced to answer Win95 questions from
>sewing machine operators for all eternity.
There's going to be a special desk on this planet where we'll -all- have
to be using someone else's idea of good interfaces if these kinds of
things keep cropping up.
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>>> Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org <<<
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