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Date:      Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:06:11 -0500
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        mwm@mired.org (Mike Meyer), dan@langille.org, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Stallman now claims authorship of Linux
Message-ID:  <15073.19843.672878.480647@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <200104210004.RAA14528@usr07.primenet.com>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20010419200357.0469ba40@localhost> <200104210004.RAA14528@usr07.primenet.com>

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Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> types:
> > At 03:00 PM 4/19/2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > >Not true. The largest producer of software in the US throgh the early
> > >80s never produced a single product, and they're still around. 
> > I sincerely doubt that.
> He is attemptiong to humporously refer to the U.S. Government.

Nothing humorous about it.  They were the largest producer of software
through the the early 80s, and they almost certainly still hold that
title. They never funded software development by selling the
software. They use the same method people selling software as a
product use - they threaten to send armed men after anyone who refuses
to cough up a fair share - as defined by the organization producing
the software - of the R&D costs.

> I see no value in software that is not productized.

Depends on how your defining "productized". If you mean "made ready
for the intended end user", I'd agree with that. If you mean "sold as
a product to fund R&D" - which is what I expect Brett meant, as he
claimed that it was the only viable model for funding R&D, I'd have to
disagree. CSRG never productized BSD in the latter sense, but a lot of
people found value in it.

	<mike
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