Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:39:36 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> To: Dag-Erling =?utf-8?b?U23Dg8K4cmdyYXY=?= <des@des.no> Cc: Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG, Teske <dteske@vicor.com>, Randi Harper <randi@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru> Subject: Re: [RFC] Rewriting sade(8) Message-ID: <20100408163936.137245fp5ycrre0w@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <86vdc2t4hs.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <55861270658151@web135.yandex.ru> <l2we277d6c81004071049h21670783ic4a9f419aedca272@mail.gmail.com> <4BBD68DB.7050600@yandex.ru> <201004080727.21020.bruce@cran.org.uk> <4BBD7CDC.2070505@yandex.ru> <20100408103809.13496s9i6ny03ocg@webmail.leidinger.net> <867hoi8gbl.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100408121500.13995d1eu7b9bt0k@webmail.leidinger.net> <86fx36up9e.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100408155309.42884l21ogy7m7sw@webmail.leidinger.net> <86vdc2t4hs.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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Quoting Dag-Erling Sm=C3=83=C2=B8rgrav <des@des.no> (from Thu, 08 Apr 2010 = =20 16:15:27 +0200): > Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> writes: >> Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav <des@des.no> writes: >> > There have been at least three or four attempts to do this in the >> > past. One of them was even fully funded by the FreeBSD Foundation. >> > They all failed. >> I was told a lot of people tried to make the WITH_CTF part working >> without the need to use -DWITH_CTF each time at the command line and >> failed. Nevertless I did it. So telling something is not possible >> because other people tried and failed is ridiculous. > > It's not ridiculous, it's experience. *Painful* experience over a > period of nearly 15 years. > >> BTW: I do not think you talk about a partition editor, but about the >> complete sysinstall. > > Yes and no. I'm talking about making the user interface pluggable, > i.e. run the same program (whether sysinstall or sade) with, say, an > ncurses interface on the console and a gtk interface in X. I did not suggest to run the same program and get different =20 interfaces. My suggestion was to have a backend-lib and a frontend. =20 The backend containing the "business-logic", and the frontend being =20 the presentation layer. If you want a GTK GUI, write a new frontend. In the case of sysinstall and sade, both use some kind of curses =20 interface, my suggestion was to the lib as they are both 2 different =20 kind of frontends (two different kinds of point of view regarding the =20 required functionality). I was misunderstanding your idea in the beginning, I was understanding =20 the description of jhb better. It surely is an applicable idea (and an =20 improvement to what we have currently), but it looks like it is =20 limiting what we could do with sade (the frontend part, not the =20 backend part) if it would be decoupled from sysinstall. Bye, Alexander. --=20 BOFH excuse #144: Too few computrons available http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137
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