Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:30:10 -0400 From: Barney Wolff <barney@tp.databus.com> To: Jamie Bowden <ragnar@sysabend.org> Cc: Jonathan Chen <jonc@chen.org.nz>, Barney Wolff <barney@tp.databus.com>, "Brian T. Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world considered harmful Message-ID: <20020724133010.GA51775@tp.databus.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10207240357180.47292-100000@moo.sysabend.org> References: <20020724073743.GB50488@grimoire.chen.org.nz> <Pine.BSF.4.10.10207240357180.47292-100000@moo.sysabend.org>
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The point, which seems to be difficult to grasp, is that the make buildworld && make installworld sequence is usually not the right thing to do. By forcing people to actually type it that way I'd hope to induce a moment's thought before hitting Enter. On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 04:01:42AM -0700, Jamie Bowden wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Jonathan Chen wrote: > > :On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 03:49:04AM -0700, Jamie Bowden wrote: > :> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Barney Wolff wrote: > > :> :But there's nothing right with it, either. Is the demonstrated risk > :> :of people using it inappropriately really worth not having to type > :> : make buildworld && make installworld > :> :in the few cases where it's safe? I claim not. > > :> # $FreeBSD: src/Makefile,v 1.234.2.14 2002/07/16 18:36:19 ru Exp $ > :> # > :> # The user-driven targets are: > :> # > :> # buildworld - Rebuild *everything*, including glue to help do > :> # upgrades. > :> # installworld - Install everything built by "buildworld". > :> # world - buildworld + installworld. > :> > :> Perhaps I'm missing something, but 'make world' appears to do nothing more > :> than you've done above in fewer keystrokes. > : > :Except for the fact that if the new kernel doesn't like your system, > :you're SOL with out-of-sync userland. > > And this is different than 'make buildworld && make installworld' in what > way exactly? If the inline Makefile documentation is correct, which I've > assumed it is, then there is no functional difference. > > Jamie Bowden > > -- > "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" > Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" > Iain Bowen <alaric@alaric.org.uk> > -- Barney Wolff I never met a computer I didn't like. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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